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Harkadenn
post Dec 5 2011, 11:04 PM
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So... according to my book "Modern Magick: Twelve lessons in the high magickal arts, by Donald Michael Kraig" says:

White Magick is the science and art of causing change to occur in conformity with will, using means not currently understood by traditional Western science, for the purpose of obtaining the Knowledge and Conversation of your Holy Guardian Angel.

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Grey Magick is the science and art of causing change to occur in conformity with will, using means not currently understood by traditional Western science, for the purpose of causing either physical or non-physical good to yourself or others, and is done either consciously or unconsciously.

I would like to know if it's possible to cross both path at the same time, because that's what I'm interested in. Or at least start with White then go to Grey?

What you suggest?


Oh and... I recently made my wand but it's size is not 1 feet. It's like 2 and a half and that's how I really like it. Do wands have to be a specific size for a specific reason and if so... why?

It's from an almond tree. Wand smells great hah!
or should I say... my short staff.

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post Dec 5 2011, 11:27 PM
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QUOTE(Harkadenn @ Dec 6 2011, 12:04 AM) *

So... according to my book "Modern Magick: Twelve lessons in the high magickal arts, by Donald Michael Kraig" says:

White Magick is the science and art of causing change to occur in conformity with will, using means not currently understood by traditional Western science, for the purpose of obtaining the Knowledge and Conversation of your Holy Guardian Angel.

and...

Grey Magick is the science and art of causing change to occur in conformity with will, using means not currently understood by traditional Western science, for the purpose of causing either physical or non-physical good to yourself or others, and is done either consciously or unconsciously.

I would like to know if it's possible to cross both path at the same time, because that's what I'm interested in. Or at least start with White then go to Grey?


I vaguely remember reading that book and disliking those statements. They are rather vague and, to my mind at least, the same thing. Talk to your HGA and you do yourself physical and/or non-physical good. That is the point I hope of all magick you do on yourself. To answer your question directly, yes you can do both. You would be hard pressed to find someone who works with their HGA and did not bother using that knowledge to better something.

As to the wand thing, It likely does not mater. If its your personal system or the one out of Kraig's book you work with, a tool you like will serve you better than one you don't.


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Cosmic consciousness is devoid of diversity; yet the universe of diversity exists in notion....
We contemplate that reality in which everything exists, to which everything belongs,
from which everything has emerged, which is the cause of everything and which is everything....
The light of [this] self-knowledge alone illumines all experiences. It shines by its own light.
This inner light appears to be outside and to illumine external objects.

-Sage Vasishtha

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post Dec 5 2011, 11:39 PM
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QUOTE(fatherjhon @ Dec 6 2011, 01:27 AM) *

I vaguely remember reading that book and disliking those statements. They are rather vague and, to my mind at least, the same thing. Talk to your HGA and you do yourself physical and/or non-physical good. That is the point I hope of all magick you do on yourself. To answer your question directly, yes you can do both. You would be hard pressed to find someone who works with their HGA and did not bother using that knowledge to better something.

As to the wand thing, It likely does not mater. If its your personal system or the one out of Kraig's book you work with, a tool you like will serve you better than one you don't.


Alright thanks to clarify things for me.

Oh and the book I'm using is a new version without bindings and an additional chapter for Chaos Magick of this one:
http://www.eso-garden.com/images/uploads_bilder/modern_magick.jpg


This is the new one and the one I'm using:
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_wiW39vxo6pE/TFemqts0rhI/AAAAAAAAAEU/UxyRG4ctWHE/s1600/malkuthsghot.jpg


Though if you have read this books and you think they are distraction to my work... please let me know.

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post Dec 6 2011, 07:50 AM
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I haven't gotten that book yet but even if you don't agree with the definitions (which I don't) it's nice to know because the author is defining the terms as he is using them in his book.


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