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Wiggs1992
post Feb 18 2009, 07:22 PM
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Okay, well I recently got the book Modern Magick: Eleven Lessons in the High Magickal Arts by Donald Michael Kraig. Very recently, since I picked it up last night. It tells me to keep a journal of dreams and once the book gets to rituals, those. Last night I hit the jackpot with dreams, usually I don't have any.. but I woke up 4 times with more to add. Before that however, I meditated for a good hour or so. What was really wierd, was how it was so easy to clear my mind. Before I actually got into Magick and its practice I was horrible. There was never a time I could keep my head clear.

Last night, I could dismiss thoughts like i've been doing it forever. While meditating I would get so into it. Then came the time I'd unconciously stop breathing and a flash would appear and startle me. The first time I figured I was just doing something wrong, but then 20 minutes later it happened again. It scared me at first, then just started to tick me off. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rant.gif) In the past, I've had similar things happen, but that flash was more of a sinister face and I would wake up gasping. Could there be someone/thing around me disrupting me?


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post Feb 18 2009, 09:34 PM
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More likely it is subconscious issues surfacing in the absence of a busy mind. It is only the constant buzz of inconsequential thoughts that keeps us separated from communicating directly with our unconscious. Likely these things will continue for a while, I would suggest simply acknowledging the images when they come, and then patiently letting them go. It is important not to assign any special significance or other form of attachment to them, as this prevents you from letting that material out of your unconscious for good. If you would like to keep a record of the images you see, you may later be able to make some sense of them, but given the commonplace nature of the phenomenon, I would say that you are not being attacked by any entity or person just based on that experience.

Keep in mind that there is plenty of negative stuff in our own unconscious, and that it can surface under many different circumstances, either in the form of relief as in a cathartic experience that may be frightening but also alleviates worries or fears about ourselves, or something more traumatic such as a disease, accident, etc. Meditation is another way in which we come into contact with these things. If we confront them, and then dismiss them - not repress, but consciously identify and release without attachment - then they will no longer trouble us and overtime that 'trash' will decompress and we'll start to get more insight into the unconscious mind. These can be flashes of images like you described, they can be sudden anxiety attacks, usually associated with some particular fixation, they can be obsessions which you formerly were not aware of, they can be repressed emotions like anger, hate, even love and simple lustful attraction. Take it all in stride.

Eliminate all other possibilities before jumping to the conclusion that you are under attack. Always, as a rule of thumb. Because for one, the likliehood of being attacked by another magical practitioner, unless you knowingly slighted another practitioner in some serious way, is simply barely worth considering in most cases. Astral parasites don't so much attack as slowly drain, and in any case are usually disturbed or removed by simply regular rituals like the LBRP and MP rituals. Non-corporeal entities almost always have some specific reason to attack you, the chances of attracting their ire is also fairly limited unless you make a habit of digging up graves, despoiling homes, and other associated disruptive activities. Don't summon dangerous entities without protection, always stipulate the 'harm no one in the making of this magical act' disclaimer, and for the most part you'll avoid being attacked by anything you've evoked or invoked. Don't create servitors out of jealousy, anger, hate, etc., and they will more than likely not turn on you. After that you've pretty much got your bases covered.

Keep on meditating, deal with these images as suggested, and over time you'll come to know yourself a lot better. Always remember to keep a level head.

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post Feb 19 2009, 07:32 PM
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Very informative, thankyou. I didn't think it would be an attack from another human just because they are so rare and I have no good reason to require such attention anyway. I'll keep what you said with me.


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QUOTE(Wiggs1992 @ Feb 19 2009, 07:32 PM) *

Very informative, thankyou. I didn't think it would be an attack from another human just because they are so rare and I have no good reason to require such attention anyway. I'll keep what you said with me.


Sorry for the double posting, but I was also reading around some more and apparently a sign of good meditatative state (is that a word?) gets to the point where you don't pay attention to your breathing either.

Who'd of guessed (IMG:style_emoticons/default/victory.gif)


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QUOTE(Wiggs1992 @ Feb 18 2009, 08:22 PM) *

Okay, well I recently got the book Modern Magick: Eleven Lessons in the High Magickal Arts by Donald Michael Kraig. Very recently, since I picked it up last night. It tells me to keep a journal of dreams and once the book gets to rituals, those. Last night I hit the jackpot with dreams, usually I don't have any.. but I woke up 4 times with more to add. Before that however, I meditated for a good hour or so. What was really wierd, was how it was so easy to clear my mind. Before I actually got into Magick and its practice I was horrible. There was never a time I could keep my head clear.

Last night, I could dismiss thoughts like i've been doing it forever. While meditating I would get so into it. Then came the time I'd unconciously stop breathing and a flash would appear and startle me. The first time I figured I was just doing something wrong, but then 20 minutes later it happened again. It scared me at first, then just started to tick me off. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rant.gif) In the past, I've had similar things happen, but that flash was more of a sinister face and I would wake up gasping. Could there be someone/thing around me disrupting me?



I think you should listen to V's advice. I'd also advise you to look at some out of body experiences as well, I think that your energetic body is running into your subconscious shielding and pushing you back into your body. I think you might have been verbally abused and when you enter a trance you try to go half-here half-there, when you're paying attention it feels very strange. Try and discern between meditation and leaving the body, these are good things to look at. With you I'd start with meditation and controlling mood and thought patterns, and then start doing astrial work. If you'd like you can private message me with some questions or concerns.

Good luck,
Dancin' Coyote


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