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kouya
post Dec 11 2008, 10:56 PM
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There are a few things one would like to ask about the 'Watchers' for those who have called and gotten a response from one of the bunch, whether by 'prescribed' ways or merely some other forms, it matters little.

How do they normally seem like? Perhaps the texture and quality of their beings, the 'capacities' of what their presence might have? How does the communication go about? 'Lively' or quite 'dull'?

Furthermore, what can 'watcher' actually do to influence the supposed 'physical/material plane'?

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post Dec 11 2008, 11:33 PM
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QUOTE(kouya @ Dec 11 2008, 11:56 PM) *

There are a few things one would like to ask about the 'Watchers' for those who have called and gotten a response from one of the bunch, whether by 'prescribed' ways or merely some other forms, it matters little.

How do they normally seem like? Perhaps the texture and quality of their beings, the 'capacities' of what their presence might have? How does the communication go about? 'Lively' or quite 'dull'?

Furthermore, what can 'watcher' actually do to influence the supposed 'physical/material plane'?


In terms of how they can affect the physical, think of poltergeist activity. They can move things, create auditory phenomena such as knocking or banging on walls, etc. Communication seems subliminal... like a whisper. Mental. I've never "heard" it "speak" the way I have other entities, such as a quiet voice somewhere behind and slightly above my head (which is how most voices are "heard" for me) or sometimes given other ways of manifesting. Example... speakers, playing music. I've had a few conjured entities "speak" through the music coming out of the speakers.

Only when it was music somehow connected to them. Some spirits, like the dead, may prefer one kind of music or another and be willing or able to speak through that music if it's playing during conjuration. I've heard of others doing this with great success but have only been able to get it myself a few times, maybe two or three notable occasions.

As for the Watcher's appearance/texture and quality of their being as you phrased it... with only one notable exception, it has always appeared to me as a shadow, or like a "negative" of a person. It's easy for me to miss because I have a very difficult time focusing enough to get visible appearance outside of a skrying mirror. The one notable occurance was during my first conjuration of the Watcher, wherein it appeared to me as a much larger than average Boxer breed dog without its ears cropped or its tail docked. That's the only time it's ever appeared to me as almost "solid", "physically corporeal".

Ever since it's just been a shadow or a sensation in the room not unlike a steady, chilly breeze. Attached is a photograph of my dog, Rocky, who the Watcher must have modeled its first appearance after. I love and trust Boxers above all other dog breeds, having raised them since I was 10 years old (I'm almost 29), and I do believe this is why the Watcher chose to present itself to me in this form. Imagine this dog with a BAD attitude and it's pretty much how the Watcher looked the first time I called it (and for some reason hasn't appeared this way since).




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post Dec 12 2008, 12:14 AM
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Hmm, for your case it seems that you are inclined more for physical-like stimuli when it comes to 'conversation' and thus the presentation of whichever entity goes for such more easily. Its not like the watcher strain doesn't have the faculty to make 'human translations', its partly whether such can be received and if the circumstances surrounding all are viable or otherwise.

While not related directly to my question, you could always try moving into the 'state', 'harmonic', 'wavelength' or whatever terms of your choice of whichever entity you find, the info usually becomes more 'lively'.

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post Oct 7 2009, 12:02 AM
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QUOTE(kouya @ Dec 11 2008, 09:56 PM) *

There are a few things one would like to ask about the 'Watchers' for those who have called and gotten a response from one of the bunch, whether by 'prescribed' ways or merely some other forms, it matters little.

How do they normally seem like? Perhaps the texture and quality of their beings, the 'capacities' of what their presence might have? How does the communication go about? 'Lively' or quite 'dull'?

Furthermore, what can 'watcher' actually do to influence the supposed 'physical/material plane'?



Well from what i have learned, the watcher is YOU the magickian. it can be both a physical or pyshcic being, and "watches you" while performing magick or summoning one of the 50 names. it reflects the magickians' persona it reflects yourself.
i happened to stumble upon a weird story that was posted on the news, here is the link
http://www.ghostvideos.ws/demon-appears-in-photo-of-a-couple.html

it seems that the "demon" in this photo is a watcher, at least from my perspective.


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QUOTE(XIXxApolloxXIX @ Oct 6 2009, 10:02 PM) *

Well from what i have learned, the watcher is YOU the magickian. it can be both a physical or pyshcic being, and "watches you" while performing magick or summoning one of the 50 names. it reflects the magickians' persona it reflects yourself.
i happened to stumble upon a weird story that was posted on the news, here is the linkhttp://www.ghostvideos.ws/demon-appears-in-photo-of-a-couple.html

it seems that the "demon" in this photo is a watcher, at least from my perspective.



That picture is nuts. I dont know what to think....

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