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valkyrie
post May 1 2007, 04:49 PM
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yes or no? Does the indigo children theory have merit and credibility? Or is it just a load of you know what? Is it an educated study of the planet's evolution and ascension, or is it a scam? c'mon, set loose the dogs of war and post your opinions!....oops, i believe there is another similar topic posted...ah what the heck, post your opinions anyway!

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post May 1 2007, 05:08 PM
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There may be a simular topic somewhere on the forum but there is not one in fight club. Indigo children and the Crystal Child.

There probably is some truth to it. I normally am very wary of New Age stuff. My wifes friends do Reiki and strongly believe in it.

I believe I will have another beer.

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post May 1 2007, 06:38 PM
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Personally, I don't think that the function of 'indigo' or 'crystal' children is connected to the color of their aura at all, as is supposedly the marker for these new aeon children. However, The traits associated with those types of children do occur grouped together, and the same children/adults that fit the category tend to have a sense of purpose which is primarily social or spiritual, respectively.

Some lady at a psychic fair told me I was a crystal when i was 12 or 13, but my aura spends most of it's time between purple and blue, and occaisionally shifts to white at the outer edges. I haven't been able to see it long enough to know if it does that more often now than it used to.

Point is, none of the information regarding the 'telling' aura of indigos or crystals have I ever been able to observe for myself, and i've met lots of people claiming to be, and in most of those cases appearing to be, indigos.

I think if you feel like you are an indigo or crystal, act like it - you have a mission, do it. That way, we all win, right?

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post May 11 2007, 05:41 PM
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I chose to re-open this thread in the interest of discussing the exact merit and credibility of the indigo children theory. The other thread was more of a generalized discussion. I wouldn't object if this were merged with the other thread. But I will leave that for somebody else to figure out.

My problem with the theory is that it promotes thinking in extremes. A person is either an indigo or a violet, there is no grey area. Thus a person is predisposed to infuence some greater "scheme" in the universe. Also I have a problem trying to stomach the whole "new aeon" bit. Its like indigo and violet people have some kind of personallity or genetic change that some how makes them better, or different from regular people. And this is suppose to somehow be a part of some greater change that will cause some possibly catostrophic or utopian dream. If the theory were more like a personal invetory test, like say the Myers Brigs Type Indicator then I'd be much more open to excepting the idea of indigo children. To me, imho, its new age tripe.


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post May 11 2007, 08:04 PM
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I don't have much to say except that I've been declared an indigo and a crystal in my life time by other people.

Personally, the conclusion I came to is that these 'new aeon' types are merely a collection of personality traits and psychological tendencies that have, until recently, not been identified as a specific type but have been included under other personality types.

Some people are exceedingly geared towards breaking rules, causing change, etc., some people are exceedingly geared towards promoting peace and healing, and in many cases it's largely a matter of coupling a definitively advanced intuition with these personality traits, which causes these personality types to operate on simply a different level - arguably higher, but not from a unified perspective of social evolution, in which all levels are ultimately equal given their impact on the social fabric - than the same personality types without those marked additional esoteric qualities.

You might look at it like:

traits A, B, C = type 1
B, C, D = type two
C, D, E = type three

Combination A, B, C, F is just considered type 1 until someone realizes, hey, that additional quality seems to make a difference, maybe we should give it it's own classification.

The 'rule breaker' the 'healer' and the 'revolutionary' are all already recognized 'templates' for people. Add the extra quality of naturally advanced intuition and the searing sense of purpose, and you get these 'new aeon' types. THey've been around forever, but now there are so many they get their own classification. The application of terms like "indigo" and "crystal" etc., all the new age crap, is just a product of the times. It was probably new agers who recognized and labelled the 'new' types and so it was their community that took it and ran. If some famous, decidedly conservative psychologist had decided to classify them, it would be some label far more down to earth, and there would be a more serious study involved.

The only thing I can say that I have felt really sets me apart from the vast majority of my peers to date, is that when it came to what I wanted to do in life, there was never really any question. I was born with an undeniable, inherent sense of purpose - not like "i'm here for a reason" but like, "This is the reason, here's your pamphlet, get to work." I was a healer from day one, and have always done energy work, since I was a child, like it was breathing. When i grew up and knew enough to ask, I learned that no, not everyone felt that way, not everyone did those things, and as far as most people knew, it was somewhat abnormal.

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post May 12 2007, 08:35 AM
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Bravo! That is hard to argue, VD! you make good points. Ive always seen it like this: there is an innate need for people to categorize themselves. I have the need, ive noticed many MANY of the forum prescribers here have the need...it is just a very human trait. What other animal does it? And then, there is a need to feel special. Perhaps this Indigo theory fulfills these two instinctual needs. That is why even though someone who is NOT new age and would regularly call it 'crap in a cup' (myself, he he) is ever so slightly interested in it. And that might be why its wracked up such a large following! C'mon, dont you feel a teensy bit of doubt about your intelligent premise that its all hooey? Even though you're pretty sure...you're not? its because of the colorful fun name...and the promises it entails, that a person can be extremely special and still belong...no wonder its SO attractive to people with ADHD! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/prop.gif) It would be so much easier just to say "im an indigo child!" and not "i have concentration issues" lol (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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post May 12 2007, 09:48 AM
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QUOTE(valkyrie @ May 12 2007, 10:35 AM) *
no wonder its SO attractive to people with ADHD! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/prop.gif) It would be so much easier just to say "im an indigo child!" and not "i have concentration issues" lol (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)


Now, I do take issue with the ADHD diagnosis as well, though... I'm not going to say that there's no such thing exactly, but I was diagnosed with ADHD by three different psychiatrists when i was 8 years old, and at the time, I had absolutely no concentration issues. I just didn't care to concentrate on the things my parents and teachers wanted me to. Personally I feel that this disorder is very often simply used as an excuse to medicate kids to make them more controllable. I took my meds for about a week, then stopped because it prevented me from seeing the world the way I had been. Good thing, to, I probably never would have begun studying the occult some years later.

If 'indigo' children were accepted as a personality type, rather than a mystical pseudo-scientific newage evolution thing, then they could be dealt with better. I'm not suggesting there's no such thing as indigos, I'm suggesting that the interpretation of the phenomenon is largely misguided. Some of the information is good, but a large portion of it is just wishful thinking. And personally, I feel that the reason for that is that it was the new age community that got a hold of the idea first. Much as I love the fact that there is an element of our culture which enjoys a curiosity and exploration of new theories for the sake of coming up with fun new ways to view the universe, unfortunately that same community tends to go overboard and because of that aren't taken seriously.

Instead of medicating children with ADHD, I feel parents and teachers should find out what it is they want do want to focus on, and teaching them how on that level. Once it's learned, it can be applied to other areas. Contrary to the popular theory, ADHD kids aren't incapable of concentration, in fact they have a lot more concentration than average individuals in my experience, but when they can't find something they want to focus all of their attention on, it becomes fractured and focused on multiple subjects at once, giving the illusion that it's going from place to place. To this day I can think about three separate things at once, and I have absolutely no problems multitasking - all because I intuitively taught myself how to focus on something I was interested in when I was a child, how to control my attention. When I turn all of my attention to one matter at hand, I have extremely acute concentration. I might have been ADHD then, hard to say, but instead of medicating it into oblivion, I utilized it and now i'm much better off for it.

As an afterthought, I do have to admit that a personality trait does constitute an energetic trait as well, however, from what I can see the energetic traits manifest as areas of violet or indigo in a specific area around the head, which is sometimes so slight as to be nearly unnoticable amidst everything else going on, usually in line with the overall color of the aura around the head and shoulders. I have never met an 'indigo' who actually had an indigo aura, the same goes for so called crystals. I only heard about 'violets' on this forum and no where else of creditable worth. Someone's page on Geocities doesn't count for me.

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post May 14 2007, 05:06 PM
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I first heard about indigos and violets in general on some other forum. Personally I don't think any information on the subject should be taken worth more than a grain of salt, but thats what I think about many things. Actually I've never heard of "crystals" until now. Just to be clear what I think indigos and violets are, as my views could be corrupted from the mainstream; Indigos are people who have been claimed to be unusually psychic, who tend to be selfless, yet confident and able to naturally manipulate energy for constructive purposes. In that sense indigo children are the architechs of the "new age". On the oposite end are the violets, sort of a natural counter balance to the energies of the indigos. The violets children are much the same as indigos only their energies tend to cause destruction. Neither are good or evil and really both tend to not catagorize the value of such things in those terms both do tend to be "rebelious" against authority and supposedly an indigo won't get along with a violet but, say they were siblings, they would ban together if needed. Also it I've read that some believe indigo and violets have auras that reflect these colors.

Now what Vagrant Dreamer said about personality types actually does have a psychological parallel, albeit it has little to do with new age theories.

A trend to behavioralist is the type A behavioral pattern. That is people fit into three catagories - Type A, B and C. For a quick run down, As are fast paced, always competitive, perfectionist, tend to be workaholics, not very good listeners, always moving, tend to hury converstations along saying "uh huh" alot and interupting, tend to sleep less than most people and have difficulty truely relaxing. Bs on the exact opposite, they tend to be mellow, free flowing, constaintly relaxed and light hearted. Then Cs are a hybrid between As and Bs.

In terms of new age theory indigos in my opinion would fit the B catagory and violets the C and A simply is irrelevant because neither indigos or violets care to be so up tight all the time. The reason I think violets would fit the bill for type Cs is that they may tend to be more agressive than their indigo counter parts.

Of course all of this is just theory and maybe I really should just stick to blowing hot air out my ass than online (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

But hey for the hell of it you can assess your own personality type right here:
http://www.sacred-magick.org/index.php?showtopic=4761

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post Nov 17 2007, 09:11 PM
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I think it is a load of crap. My energy and aura seems to be blue, but I think that has more to do with me. I have been called an inidigo child before, but I just think I am your average natural psion.

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I agree with telempath, valkyrie, & VG's various statements of excrement. All the material I've read follows the same trends as fortune telling, vague descriptions phrased to give the impression of specifics. Even if your aura's a singular recognizable color of the visible spectrum we know and love, no one is a stereotype. ANY perception exists solely in that perceiver's mind, there's as many (or more) unique concepts of what "indigo" is for every individual who's heard of it. I personally think Indigo is just someone's attempt to have there be 7 instead of 6 colors in what we recognize as parts of a rainbow, which I find infuriating for at least one obvious reason.
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post Nov 18 2007, 05:01 AM
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This is an odd topic for me, as much as I want to dismiss it and claim there is nothing to it…evidence shows otherwise.

That said I can care less about any alien DNA/magical souls returning crap!

In my opinion it has more to do with environment. Lets face it, Gen X partially but subsequent generations have all had less challenges physically then previous generations.

I was blessed with very physical endeavors, living a life style for a time that required physical prowess. Yet, I also enjoyed my generations complete lack of truly wanting accomplishment, cynicism and really not caring too much about the thoughts of others.

The third world, especially rural areas are many generations behind this, and it shows. They have this 1950s/1960s point of view with a lot.

Now on this subject, I don’t think it has anything to do with timing. It has to do with the fact that today kids live in a type of society that never existed before. The need to go anywhere is limited. The physical bullying that all previous generations dealt with on one level or another has been replaced with reputation. Now reputation has nothing to do with who slept with who, well it may…but it is not about the girl who had sex out of wedlock. In fact I think it is different things for different people even in the same small community like a high school.

On many levels I envy kids in school right now. There is an underlining honesty in today’s kids that there was not anytime before. Prejudging is lessened, yet there are the odd changing rules that kids get hung up about.

I spent high school in a boarding school in a third world country. This allowed me to get teased without end because of my accent. Get in fights because I would not step down to anyone. Be a minor celebrity because of where I was from (the US), and my personality. Not get into too much trouble, because I was not dealing with gang wars…just guys asserting their physical standings.

Now in this environment, I teased others almost as much as I was teased. The boarding school also provided a brotherhood to anyone who went there and was not there. If one of our school mates had physical trouble outside of school and we where there…we helped. For that, it did not matter the relationship we had at school we got involved.

That tied to the fact that I loved getting into fights at the time, gave me plenty of opportunities to piss people off, and not care where it went.

Yes, I have been in the gutter puking blood because I got beat to a pulp. That life style is almost impossible to exist in the US today. I would have been arrested countless times, instead of just a few and just in a holding cell (never booked).

Today, it is about MySpace and Facebook. It is about being cool even if a coward. It is about social interaction. Not about what you can do per say. Hell, kids don’t even play outside in none controlled environments anymore. You don’t walk alone until 12 or so, staying at home is the same.

In the US in an Urban environment I was riding my bike no helmet, alone across neighborhoods by age 7. We would have dirt rock fights and glass bottles would count as grenades.

One of my friends burnt off all the hair on the front side of his face after opening esters rocket engines and purring all the contents into a coffee can and throwing a match in. We worked with power tools with no supervision.

We where almost the last of that group.

Today, the coming generation (late teens early 20s) are totally different. A lot has changed for you. If we where dating cross racially it was an issue (not for us, but for our parents) drugs was a more mixed issue. There was more paranoia about it, now it would be worse if you where smoking tobacco for most then pot.

This does not even enter into the conversation about the internet, the ability to be freaks and have your parents be ok with it…I had yelling matches with my dad till the age of 16 about haircuts. The concept of getting the cool shoes or pants never came up. The Hair arguments ended after I was arrested (held not booked) after breaking a 20 year olds jaw, he had decked his girlfriend, and he was much bigger then me, and I was bigger then my dad. That incident changed a lot in my relationship with my dad, he opened up to me that that was his biggest fear. That I would not step down in a confrontation and get killed because of it, thinking that I could not handle my own.

ADHD is a farce in my opinion. In the fourth grade I was put on Ritalin. Reason was I was one of the most intelligent kids in my class, yet I never did my homework. My mom was at her wits end because I would sit there for hours doing nothing, just staring into space. The drug did nothing for me. Grounding did nothing nor did anything else…except direct supervision while I was working on something, keeping me on task. If we drug kids today, they won’t learn to work past it.

So are the new generations different? Hell ya. More socially aware, more socially honest, more sheltered, more accepting, more accepted, more acknowledged.

They have thinner skins when it comes to ridicule, but they deal with it honestly. The high school kids I come into contact with, will tell you when something was hurtful. My generation would have laughed at that and made it worse during high school.

Where I see the kids having a block, is when they are criticized and not acknowledged. Or when people are judgmental. They are too emotionally attached to that. My only advice is hear what is said, see if it is true and choose to change or not. However being judgmental is something that is totally necessary. They are judgmental about everything, except people. X is better then Y, why can’t Jimmy be a moron when he has 4 inch flesh tunnels where his ear lobe was?
When I see those, a part of me is so tempted to grab and pull with a hard jerking motion. That is not exploring more self destructive behavior.

So, are there indigo and crystal kids?
Depends how you are judging?

More intuitive then those before them? Yes
More emotionally aware? Yes
More apt to display some psychic talents? Yes
More apt to care and acknowledge others? Yes

In essence everything attributed to these kids I think is true, but the reason is that their environment allows them to be. I don’t see these kids coming out of rural Latin America unless their parents are accepting of this.

Are there negatives to these kids? Sure, at the moment they are narcissistic in their thinking, ill equipped to deal with the harshness the world can throw at them. Confuse agreement and acknowledgement with accomplishment.

Is this bad? No not at all it is great, they are just like the majority of the 40~50 something’s in politics right now. And they are at best in their 20s. However there are some lessons that they will need to learn, and I do not know how they will take it. But for the Baby Boom generation…these kids are a god send. They are a reflection of themselves right now, embodying their utopia.

The kids coming from warzones are going to show how this generation deals with harshness. We are seeing some able to move right past it and others going home and killing their family.

Not to mention the indigo children are the first to have mass school shootings on their peers. But I think it is a generational thing, they have missed certain coping mechanisms and will need to learn to deal with them.

While it can be said they would not have done it if not for firearms, because of the non-confrontational nature of most of this generation. It would manifest in other ways, perhaps if we had arts in the schools it would be that way.


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http://earthsongforums.com/showpost.php?p=46528&postcount=8

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post Aug 1 2009, 12:42 PM
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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) haha. 'muggles' lol. thats great. too true too true!

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I'm open to the idea of evolution.

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