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post Mar 26 2010, 12:04 PM
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Hi, I have just recently started green wicca and i am wondering how to store energy in plants and trees.

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post Mar 26 2010, 06:00 PM
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Greetings GreenChase1/Chason!
It is of my opinion that you don't store energy in plants...they already store energy on their own as living beings! (Consider the basic premis of the Matrix, whereas humans were being used for their energy(ies)...probably not a good example...) Anyhoo, Plants are living things, they have their own method(s) of storing this energy. We can become attuned to the Plants and learn to draw this energy for ourselves or we can crudely use the plant to give us various forms of energy without attunement. Think of the crude energy delivered by coal! or by oil! We can also siphon off a plants life energy but unless we allow the plant to renew itself, it will die...(IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) Using polants as 'batteries' for our own bio-energy will only kill a plant unless you have attuned the plant with yourself! In shamanism we learn that (IMHO) all things are alive...you can communicate with Plants and they to you! Trees have been the focal points of various witch/pagan groups for thousands of years! Mythologies are loaded with images of plant-entities interacting with humans. (Foolish move on their part! *sigh*) I recommend you read the or a book called "Findhorn", at the moment the authors name and full book title eludes me. It is about an experimental haven in the north of Scotland that claimed interaction with the Plant-world Deva(s) and the marvelous oasis that they formed. Interesting stuff! So no to your first question but Yay! to your being a 'greenie' witch! More of you are needed in this world! Good journey! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


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post Mar 26 2010, 06:53 PM
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Thanks for the info, as I was not sure if this was practical =p Out of the group of 20 something wiccans at our school only 2 are green =/ so yeah it does seem we are in short supply lol

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post Mar 27 2010, 08:33 AM
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hey bym,

there is an odd eastern pjilosophy where one of their elements is wood - too much wood soaked up from everyday stuff is bad for the human (liver, spleen, chi insulator or blocker) but good for trees, etc - in their system with a normal tree you put the sole of your bare foot on the tree and push/flow the wood from you into the tree, which makes it stronger and look better than other trees and all the other trees get jealous of it or something - i suppose with bonzai tree you would do the same just not with your foot?

lol, that's why i got named esoterica - i am a junk bin of useless information

note for greenchase1:
never get caught up in what folks tell you is the 'right' way of practicing and figure it out (feel it out) for yourself - there is usually something somewhere that somebody somewhere else is doing that somehow works at least for them - the intent is the ruling force, everything else is just methods of mulch and fertilizer - the earth is a very old planet and there are many many many ways of doing even the same thing - a firmly established and thought out intent is usually the most important thing that made it work - check out the invisible plant people and entities around you - you can't see them, you have to feel them - talk to them out loud and listen for their feelings in response - if any of these plant entities draw and fascinate you, then ask them if they would like a gift like water or maybe eggs (as in fertilizer) and give it to them, not as a pact or something, but just as a friendship gift - they will usually help you with your plants - don't forget the fae and such that also help plants grow - leave a few gumdrops or pretty things in your plants for them, and be sure to tell them out loud that what you leave around is for them

spring is here and my heart is all a-flutter, and its not just the starbucks!!!

the lady's color was that of irish moss!!!

may the angel of bliss shit all over you!!!

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post Mar 27 2010, 09:00 AM
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LOL! I can imagine just what some literal minds 'wood' do with that one! Unfortunately the plant spirits/people try so hard to get along with humans that they often do so at their ultimate peril...*sigh* chop,chop.....
Sometimes they fight back, don't piss a dryad off! The transfer of the 'wood' energy into the plant is considered a gift to the plant and the spirit emulates this by bragging about it. It usually ends badly when old Lu Chi Su'an needs that extra bit of bamboo....chop, chop! The Plant Devas are always trying to get along....they have the right of it, it's just that humans have the foresight that only extends to the length of their pricks and all too soon forget! *sigh*
Sorry for the rant...I'm off to bottle up some new blackberry brandy! That makes today worthwhile! *grin* Be well!


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post Mar 27 2010, 09:33 AM
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>>blackberry brandy

woot!!!

oh, a soft hard cordial on a cold spring night with that ever so wonderful beltaine-eve chilly breeze shivering down your back, with the fire a-coming closer, and that warm soft invisible yet firm mouth giving the five-fold kiss...

sweet goddess i am so glad i'm a solitary! - do the non-solitary witches get this level of thrill?


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post Mar 27 2010, 01:20 PM
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Thank you for the advice esoterica =D I am one who usually finds MY way to do something when someone says there is only one way =p I have been trying to contact to entities in the forest near my house but when i have free time it seems my father does too *chop, chop* =( so I have been searching for a place AWAY from the cutting that makes me sick =/
blackberry brandy = <3 =D

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post Mar 27 2010, 03:15 PM
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Ah.....we also have to be warm...try to commune with the trees and leave them gifts. See if your Dad is 'thinning' the woods and is utilizing the wood for need. Telling the trees this will soften the 'blow' and the plants can and do understand the selective thinning of their groves. (This is a partial rationalization...to feel comfortable as opposed to murderers...*sigh*) Making Blackberry Brandy is easy! At your age the stumbling comes with alcohol...unless you live in very backwoods setting and own a still...? Needed: 1-4 pints fresh picked (wild is best) blackberries, sugar, wide mouth (or narrow-but this sucks) canning jar/glass, depending on flavor recipe one clove or 1/2 to 1 teaspoon lemon zest (no white pith!), water (purer the better- but NOT distilled! yuck!) and some filtering agents (cheesecloth/tee-shirt cloth, and a sieve) and time. Crush the berries in the quart jar(s) and sprinkle with some sugar (I use about 1/4 cup per pint, I also like unsweet liquor) cover and let sit for 1 day. Add 1 cup alcohol (100 proof vodka or 1/2 cup grain+1/2 cup water) (you could add brewers yeast and water, ferment the mix and then distill the mass after it stops bubbling...) and cover. tightly. Keep in a cool dark place for at least 2 weeks - up to 4. Filter off the berrie solids reserving the boozy juice. Taste it. (It will taste raw!) slowly add a simple syrup of either honey/water or sugar/water (syrup=1cup water to 1 to 2 cups sugar OR 1 cup water to 1 cup honey...if honey is used the end result will be slightly murky) until it tastes right...not too sweet! Add the clove or the zest or both! Cover tightly and keep in a cool dark place for another 2-4weeks. Taste it. It should have mellowed considerably! (hint: the longer you let it sit, the better it gets...) Filter the liquid through the cloth or a coffee filter. Repeat if you want clarified state. Bottle it. Drink with love. The resultant buzz is lovely on those cool early May/late April evenings of Beltaine or again around the autumnal equinox. Use sparingly, swill beer but partake of brandy. Note: You can, of course, use unflavored Brandy instead of the vodka or grain...I find the grain works very well! Your choice, your recipe now! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) No, I'm NOT advocating underage drinking...this recipe is in the domain of free speech! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/i_triangle.gif)


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post Mar 27 2010, 04:29 PM
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=p haha

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post Mar 28 2010, 07:29 AM
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mmmm, more like a tincture of blackberry! - nice!

i do have a still, but its little and only for valerian and other volatiles

and of course these young-uns never don't drink alcohol lol

i wonder how many of these young-uns have even ever tasted an unprocessed, unpasteurized, real blackberry cordial

if you have a grandparent still alive, you should ask them about dances and cordials and watch they're eyes light up

those were the days, and i miss them so - it was a much gentler time without all this greed and anger

there wasn't so much struggle, things just were whatever they were - whether it was bad or good, it just was, and nobody tried to change it

enough, i'm depressed i guess - time for borderlands! - best depression-fighter ever made in a scrappile - patrol out from new haven, picking up all the boxes and not worrying whether its bad or good, it just is, and taking out my frustration on anything that moves - eat my hot 4x static smg you super badmutha spiderant tarantula zappers, brute bullys and superbad nasty guardians! - you will all die unless the console hangs up again from trying to show all the shit going down! - oh i feel better already (no need for a medic now! lol)


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its the little ones that get you

eeek! swarmed!

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HAHAHA omg, that is truly epic =p

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