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Fio Praeter Humanus
post May 11 2007, 09:04 AM
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The LRP, the GRP, and the SPR seem to come up over and over again. I consider these foundational rituals and even those who do not use them at least started this path with the study of them. Yet there seems every month another question about them and from the questions there seems to be a lot of misunderstanding out there.

It has been suggested to me that I should write up a class at least on the lesser pentagram ritual but I am unable to do so for various reasons. Mainly much of the nitty gritty elements and inner energy work with the vibrations and all I learned through membership in my order and due to my oath I cannot discuss them. So in essence if I did in fact write a class it would be pretty much what is already written and diluted enough that there would be no point.

But it occurs to me that I might be able to answer specific questions that anyone might have. Obviously I will answer them as best as I can and if it encroaches upon my oath I will just dance around it or just not answer the question. It is a pain but it is the best I can do.

So if anyone has anything they have always wanted to know about any of the pentagram rituals then go ahead and ask.


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Question 1: Is the Lesser Ritual Pentagram of elemental nature? I read from somewhere that the Banishing Earth Pentagram we draw is not of elemental nature. An elemental pentagram would comprise of the kerubic sign. If it is not of elemental nature, what nature of forces are we drawing?


Question 2: If the ritual is not of elemental nature, why donít we draw other three form of banishing pentagram in its respective direction?


Question 3: The divine names used in the four directions do not correspond to Qabalah (Tree of Life).

It does not make sense we use:
East: YHVH
South: Adonai
West: Eheieh
North: Agla

YHVH: Tetragrammaton, which comprises of 4 elements. However, direction of East correspond to Air.
Adonai corresponds to Earth element, which is the direction of North
Eheieh corresponds to Air element, which is the direction of East.
Agala comprises of Gibor, which correspond to Fire element, direction of South.

To replace and rearrange the Divine names to correspond to Qabalah, doesnít it make more sense to use?:

East: Eheieh
South: Agla
West: El
North: Adonai

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Nero   Q&a: Lbrp And The Pentagram Rituals   May 11 2007, 09:04 AM
Seth'sCall   Greetings Nero, Thanks for the this post, f...   May 13 2007, 12:45 AM
Mchawi   Is it viable to have a closing seal in each pent i...   May 13 2007, 06:47 AM
Nero   1. What does the 'sign of the Enterer' and...   May 14 2007, 07:34 AM
Mchawi   I don't use the sign of the enterer, in some...   May 14 2007, 08:53 AM
Nero   I don't use the sign of the enterer, in some t...   May 14 2007, 09:11 AM
Mchawi   I am not sure what you mean. The LBRP and the LIRP...   May 14 2007, 09:27 AM
Nero   You confused me with this last time, ok the LBRP d...   May 14 2007, 09:45 AM
Mchawi   No not exactly. This has caused more confusion tha...   May 14 2007, 10:13 AM
Nero   I get that but as Malkuth its repondance is earth ...   May 14 2007, 10:34 AM
altpath   The pentagrams are seen as blue or white. There is...   Jul 16 2007, 10:44 PM
Seth'sCall   Greetings Nero, Thanks for the reply. On LBRH 1...   May 14 2007, 08:47 AM
Nero   1. What is 'Yod Nun Resh Yod' mean? It sp...   May 14 2007, 08:52 AM
Aurelius   hey allthough ive been studying magickal arts sinc...   May 18 2007, 04:28 PM
Nero   hey allthough ive been studying magickal arts sinc...   May 21 2007, 10:06 AM
Aurelius   I do not understand the question. What about the S...   May 21 2007, 06:41 PM
Nero   just general pratice of it realy if you wouldnt mi...   May 22 2007, 09:34 AM
Mchawi   Hello again Few more questions... I don't und...   May 23 2007, 04:47 AM
Nero   Hello again Few more questions... I don't und...   May 23 2007, 07:15 AM
Mchawi   By LVX I assume you mean the Analysis of the Keywo...   May 24 2007, 08:34 AM
Mchawi   Had a good ritual last night after missing a few d...   May 26 2007, 06:34 AM
Nero   Thanks. Not sure who it is, probably Kraig who sa...   May 29 2007, 07:33 AM
ComaOfLoss   The unicursal hexagrams were made popular by crowl...   Oct 31 2007, 04:11 AM
Egle   Hi, I have a newbie question about GRP :baby!:...   May 30 2007, 04:28 PM
Nero   The formula is, banish, invoke, then banish again....   May 31 2007, 11:26 AM
animus   I have a few simple(?) questions: When doing the ...   Jun 3 2007, 12:03 PM
Nero   I have a few simple(?) questions: When doing the ...   Jun 4 2007, 10:17 AM
Mchawi   What do you think about using diffrent elements at...   Jun 4 2007, 10:29 AM
animus   Drawing the circle helps fortify your sphere of se...   Jun 4 2007, 02:36 PM
Nero   Great answers as always, what does it mean if i do...   Jun 5 2007, 10:02 AM
Mchawi   The ritual has been used for over a hundred years ...   Jun 5 2007, 04:18 PM
Nero   Hmmm... I get ya. Not sure 'bout those either,...   Jun 6 2007, 05:53 AM
Mchawi   Yeah thats it, get an astral twinge and it scare...   Jun 6 2007, 06:10 AM
Nero   So Air is active, water is passive. How so, what d...   Jun 6 2007, 08:35 AM
animus   The circle is infinite. You are projecting the ene...   Jun 6 2007, 09:04 AM
animus   Why would you not want to? Symbolically not comple...   Jun 6 2007, 02:19 AM
Trinetra   Hi, i just wondered wheter one could use the magic...   Jun 6 2007, 07:58 AM
Mchawi   Air Dagger ^^^ Why is the air dagger used F.Nero?...   Jun 6 2007, 08:11 AM
Mchawi   ^ Yeah, thats what I meant, that you don't us...   Jun 6 2007, 08:58 AM
Nero   ^ Yeah, thats what I meant, that you don't us...   Jun 6 2007, 11:15 AM
Mchawi   Ok... sorry if i pissed you off before. Is it pos...   Jun 12 2007, 06:54 AM
Nero   Is it possible to use sigils to do the LBRP? Progr...   Jun 12 2007, 08:30 AM
Mchawi   Ok... Just read a topic you replied in... that on...   Jun 13 2007, 08:33 AM
Nero   Ok... Just read a topic you replied in... that on...   Jun 13 2007, 09:40 AM
Gregathol   I have a small question about the LBRP. Is it wise...   Jun 14 2007, 06:45 PM
Nero   I have a small question about the LBRP. Is it wise...   Jun 15 2007, 07:39 AM
bumdhar   This is great stuff above! So the sign of sil...   Jun 15 2007, 06:45 PM
Mchawi   Hi again. Have been thinking about those directio...   Jun 19 2007, 01:29 PM
Into_Dust   Hi... I also have a question about the LBRP. I...   Aug 9 2007, 10:16 AM
Nero   Hi... I also have a question about the LBRP. I...   Aug 13 2007, 06:57 AM
Mchawi   Have to admit I like closing my rituals, kinda mis...   Sep 29 2007, 10:57 AM
wizardgryphon   so the true ancestry of the hexagran is asian?????...   Oct 31 2007, 10:25 AM
ComaOfLoss   so the true ancestry of the hexagran is asian?????...   Oct 31 2007, 02:05 PM
wizardgryphon   Well, if you ever go to India or Nepal you'll ...   Oct 31 2007, 02:16 PM
palindroem   Be careful to not get lost in the study of the sym...   Oct 31 2007, 04:10 PM
Mchawi   Bit of a stupid question... Is it ok to do the si...   Nov 13 2007, 07:17 AM
Nero   If you are using the sign of the enterer, which yo...   Nov 13 2007, 08:05 AM
Mchawi   If you are using the sign of the enterer, which yo...   Nov 13 2007, 11:10 AM
AmethistA   Just out of curiosity, i am not really confortable...   Dec 14 2007, 10:14 AM
Nero   Just out of curiosity, i am not really confortable...   Dec 14 2007, 10:24 AM
AmethistA   Some people are just not comfortable with Jewish a...   Dec 14 2007, 11:17 AM
Nero   Thank you. I believe i will practice the nomal ver...   Dec 14 2007, 11:31 AM
AmethistA   The star ruby is a very good ritual but in appeara...   Dec 14 2007, 11:46 AM
Nero   Thank you for your answer. Yes, this is not the fi...   Dec 14 2007, 12:29 PM
AmethistA   As I said the star ruby is centered in geburah and...   Dec 15 2007, 03:38 AM
Mchawi   Right, I've got myself in a bit of a rut and h...   Mar 7 2008, 11:17 AM
Mchawi   Ok, finally started in 1=10 grade yesterday. Have ...   Apr 22 2008, 05:18 AM
Fio Praeter Humanus   You always complete the circle leaving no breaks i...   Apr 22 2008, 01:24 PM
Mchawi   You always complete the circle leaving no breaks i...   Apr 23 2008, 05:05 AM
Mchawi   Don't understand why L.T.C invokes in such a f...   Apr 24 2008, 11:47 AM
AmethistA   As i said i am continuing practicing liber XXV dai...   Dec 19 2007, 04:16 PM
Fio Praeter Humanus   As i said i am continuing practicing liber XXV dai...   Dec 20 2007, 07:28 AM
Daathvader   I have a question that I don't think I saw yet...   Dec 20 2007, 10:48 AM
Fio Praeter Humanus   Still, I have to ask how important it is in the LB...   Dec 20 2007, 12:23 PM
Squishy   For the past little while, I've been doing an ...   Dec 21 2007, 12:07 PM
Fio Praeter Humanus   For the past little while, I've been doing an ...   Dec 21 2007, 12:44 PM
kairos   Though not the LBRP, in regarding the GIRH, in ...   Jan 10 2008, 01:13 AM
Fio Praeter Humanus   I am a little confused by your question. You want ...   Jan 14 2008, 08:09 AM
Mchawi   Hello again Ftr Nero; Going through 'Kabbalah...   Jan 28 2008, 08:03 AM
Gesigewigus   Why in the LBRP do we place Geburah on our right, ...   May 29 2008, 01:06 PM
Fio Praeter Humanus   Why in the LBRP do we place Geburah on our right, ...   May 29 2008, 02:20 PM
Gesigewigus   you are associating yourself with Adam Kadmon, arc...   Jun 1 2008, 09:32 PM
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Mchawi   Okay, and other than superimposing the figure over...   Jun 20 2008, 11:39 AM
Gesigewigus   LBRP = Lesser banishing ritual of the pentagram. ...   Jul 1 2008, 09:00 PM
azareth   Ok, what are the visualizations that go with every...   Jun 30 2008, 08:45 AM
Velarius   I'm not sure if this is the right place to pos...   Jul 3 2008, 07:51 AM
Petrus   Something interesting that I've noticed...I...   Oct 13 2008, 12:45 PM
Velarius   Something interesting that I've noticed...I...   Nov 11 2008, 09:21 PM
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Orr   actually since i have been doing the lbrp(almost a...   Mar 30 2009, 02:40 PM
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Fio Praeter Humanus   bump   Feb 11 2011, 12:23 PM
Mchawi   How do you begin to study the pentagram rituals?   Feb 11 2011, 12:30 PM
Waterfall   How do you begin to study the pentagram rituals? ...   Feb 11 2011, 02:20 PM
Mchawi   Hmmmm... thanks waterfall, at one point I was attu...   Feb 13 2011, 11:41 AM
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