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daev
post Mar 22 2005, 02:04 PM
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This is from a friend of mine (J-Dog) who currently is not a member...

If you have any questions regarding this post ask and I will direct them to him and post the response...

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J-Dog:
*Note* bare with me folks, i just jotted this down in my notes and i'm still trying to decipher my chicken scratch-

Based upon a vision of me looking into the quartz tip of my wand during a meditation, I've decided to do this technique tonight to investigate.

Okay now, before I started, I prayed to GOD and invited him in as a councelor, father, and administrator for I had invited him as a host so I could recieve truthful answers and through his will, I would have the strength that would be needed and I was inviting him to bring glory to his name through me-

Now that was out of the way, I lit some incense and held my wand and looked deeply into the quartz tip.
After a while I was contacted by a spirit name "Ghem" he made it sound like "GHEMMMM."
One of the questions I had asked him was if he was an angel or a demon and he said that he was the latter of the two-whatever that means.
He told me that his nature is to "cause to become" and he discharges by lightning (blue electricity.)
He also told me that he gives all true answers to questions and knowledge. He said that his rewards are great to those who do him favors.
Asking him "what favors?"-he said by returning to all aspects of my true self and he'll personally give me nutrients in my body to make me simple in ways that I will adore.
Asking Ghem about Andromalius, he told me that it's best to contact him after midnight.
That answer was more recieved as a feeling of communication than words itself.

He also said that Andromalius is more of a diety than him but to recieve him (andro), I must construct his temple to recieve him but he cautioned that it is best to take a ritual bath/shower before doing any type of magical work.

Ghem also told me that he resides within the aura or sphere of my brain.
I asked him would it be alright to post our conversation on Occult Forums and he said that he would love to inspire those who do not take their time to read books; he sounded very excited by that one-I took that as a yes.

He told me that his name resides in the mercurial alphabet ( I guess he meant the Kamea of Mercury)
Ghem also said that he is the manifestation of desire-If one wants this, they are to construct his name and reside in the circle while they recieve him in the triangle.
-One of that other many things that is in his nature is relaxation or deep rest because it is a key of somesort.
But he will help those who ask; all they need to do is step forward naming their desire.

I asked him if he would help me and he said that he is willing to be my prophet of manifestation (whatever that means) as long as I stay true to my nature.
When I had asked if he would be my familiar (test question) he said that he is more than that and his tone turned upset and he sounded offended by that question.

When talking to him I recieved this vision of a wolf in red lights or color.
But over and over, he kept saying that he causes to become and his name was in the mercurial alphabet- he sounded rather excited at those times.
At first he was referring to himself as the third person and his constant referrals to "I" hinted that he had an ego or was very proud of himself.

I asked him if I called for him using this same technique would he come and he happily responded with a yes and so i thanked him and snapped out of it.
His energy or the energy I recieved was so intense that I couldn't concentrate any longer and my arm was shaking, at first I thought that it was because I was holding my wand with no support but it was still shaking as it rested on my desk.

Personally I think ghem is a genii of somesort. if anybody wants to try to contact him, be my guest. But if you do, let me know what happened.

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post Mar 22 2005, 02:05 PM
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J-Dog: I'm posting this second part to break this down cuz i know what it feels like to read a whole paged post and i hate it.lol.

okay so after my little session w/ ghem i was looking up his name in my enochian dictionary hoping to find something but i was unlucky.
then i googled "ghem" and computer websites came up so then I googled "the meaning of ghem" and Stong's hebrew bible dictionary came up and I typed in the word "ghem" and out of the references, I picked "gmuwlah" pronounced ghem-moo-lah.
Basically that word means "deeds", "recompenses" adn "reward".
Breaking down that word I got gmuwl which means "benefit", "benefits", "desert", "diserving", "given", "recompence", "reward", and "served".

Biblic References
benefit-2Chr. 32:25
benefits-Psa. 103:2
desert-Psa. 28:4
diserving-Jud. 9:16
given-Prov. 19:17
recompense-Prov.12:14, Isa.35:4, Isa59:18, Isa66:6, Jer.51:6, Lam3:64, Joel3:5, Joel3:7, reward-Psa. 94:2, Isa.3:11, Obad 1:15
served-Psa. 137:8
deeds-Isa. 59:18
recompenses-Jer. 51:56
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reward: 2 Sam. 19:36

Check it out for yourselves if you think I'm a nut and if you do and still think Ima nut, it's okay

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post Mar 22 2005, 02:06 PM
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HEADS UP FOLKS:
since last i was here, i have contacted "ghem" three or four times and i haven't posted them in sequence because i wanted to do a lil more research.
the first time, it was a very weak connection but when i was asking for him, the number 6 and 17 kept coming at my vision but then i had to stop since the kids outside were screaming their brains out while they were playing.
the second time was a little bit stronger but "ghem" kept telling me to put him in the triangle and summon him so he can help. I declined but when i had asked if he will come again if i call him, he told me not if i didn't summon him in the triangle.
-but i learn that i can not bend to a spirits will-
so the third time i tried calling him and this big, busty, blonde haired female spirit/thingina magjig told me that "ghem" refused to come to my call and he was busy on the 12th floor.
i was like WTF-we only have 6 floors here but maybe 12 could be referring to a dimension of somesort.-whatever.
so today, (earlier today) i felt that if i had tried to contact him again, the connection would be stronger so i did it.
and this time, after awhile, while turning my wand, i saw this black ball or circle that winked at me and said that it was him.
i had asked him what was his office or nature and he said, "to answer questions and to help when desired."
not sure of his authenticity, i had asked him to draw in the air, his signature and low and behold, it was his sigil (from the mercury kamea) in the air kind of there but not there, only that it was reversed, but it was accurate. (maybe it was reversed because he was facing me and that is some spooky shit since that suggest that he was infront of me on some level, though invisible.
so, i told him that i drew his sigil out of the mercury square (since he kept telling me that was how to find his name) and he sounded happy but he got more enthused with the same message of summoning him in the triangle so he can face me in the circle.
i told him that i needed more time to think about that because i wanted to take everything slow, and he was like (more like a feeling than words) he wasn't going to come the next time I call if I don't summon him in the triangle.
but i only told him, that i will call him and i do expect him to answer when i do call or i won't bother with him at all and ofcourse, he agreed.
so since the last four times wasn't the strongest since the first, i am planning to call him tomorrow since last thursday when i was first introduced to him was the strongest signal.
and for those who don't know, i was using my wand by gazing into the quartz tip of it to contact him, this was a suggestion recieved to me in a vision.
but now, i had starting thinking and i don't think that is a good idea since my wand is supposed to be an extension of my power.
if i keep doing this, the wand gets consumed with "his" or any other spirits essence and that could mess me up down the road.
so i think i am going to use my hazy quartz or rose quartz rock; better that than something as personal as my wand.
my overall opinion of this guy is an anology of him being happy as if i had answered an s.o.s. of a salesman trying to sell me some shit, but since i wasn't buying what he had to offer but kept coming around the store, the sales guy is catching an attitude with me cuz i wasn't a "buying customer." so i kind of had to put him in his place and remind him that he is the sales dude and i am the customer and the customer is ALWAYS right.
any thoughts please keep contributing them.
thanks and take care.

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post Mar 22 2005, 02:07 PM
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Anyways, alot has changed since then so I want to explain (if I haven't in my original post; thanks for replying by the way) and I have no clue what happened to him.
I was doing alot of visual meditations back then and in one vision, I was shown me looking into the crystal tip of my wand for some reason. Ofcourse, I ignored it to move on ahead into the nueral pasture of my mental model but the vision kept appearing like a beeping button telling you there's an e-mail or something.
So I took it upon myself that it was a message or a divine reason for doing this, and so I did it and viola, my first post about the guy is made here.
I have tried to talk to him (through my first approach) but the signals were weaker than the first and ofcourse I was skeptical because he was very pushy for me to put his sigil in the triangle and summon him there.
I did not; not because of the used car sales man theory but I personally don't have a needy interest in doing so.
I figure he's a spirit and he'll always be around so when the time's right, (if there ever is one in this case) I'll do it, but then I wonder if he was some type of planetary entity, because he was only so strong that first time (like doing cocaine for the first) but unforetunately, I do not remember any particular thing on that night (astrological or otherwise.)
I do remember he did stressed to me that his sigil was found in the mercury square (his exact words) so if anybody is feeling like a etheric pioneer, y'all are free to summon him to see what happens.
He was a very confident spirit and boasted about his powers (read first post; believe it's there) and that's all I can say about it.

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post Mar 22 2005, 05:40 PM
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Good at copying, but nothing origional here!! - Fhuil ar ne fhuil dia

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post Mar 27 2005, 01:36 PM
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It is probably a good thing to stop messing around with this entity. What controls are you using? What system are you operating with? The kamea of Mercury has very little to do with any Enochian references that you may come up with. Not to say that it will never happen....I've noticed that alot of the younger people today mix their methods up severely, usually to the detriment of the work involved. You mentioned a Goetic entity in the post. A few years back there was a new-age author who linked the Goetic spirits with various sections of the brain. Most of the jury is still out on that.....just a warning. By placing the entity (Ghem) in the Triangle you will be allowing (even encouraging) it to manifest. Don't...do...it! I take it that you are of the Christian persuasion? If not, then all your entreaties to the divine before your crystal scrying are for naught. And you are correct in assuming that the use of a wand crystal is not appropriate in these scryings. Thanks for allowing me my rant/rambling! Good luck!


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post Aug 5 2005, 02:29 PM
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I disagree. A properly warded protective circle which is always used with the triangle of meditation would be an asset in giving you extra protection, compared to scrying in a random(or sacred object which should be free of external influence!!)object without setting up proper wards. Is scrying usually less of an open portal?-usually, NOT always- spirits can, rarely, possess without restraint from divination contact, and the circle is never overkill. Also I suspect this spirit both needs you to do so to make contact and fulfill your wishes and also wants you to develop your magical skills. Will the triangle allow it to manifest on this plane more easily, after closing the circle? Perhaps influence your path and your life? It is possible- and I would like to point out THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU ASKED IT TO DO. It is a spirit of manifestation of the desire to evolve and become and you ASKED it to do so,therefore it told you specifically how it would need to be summoned to do what you asked it to.

This is not an external entity. This is an aspect of your higher self that wishes to help you learn and evolve as a mage. Spirits often ask you to use a certain method of communication to ASSIST them in communicating or enacting your wishes on this plane, and the flagging ability of this one to come through and it's warning that it may not be able to is less likely a control trip in this situation and more clearly stating the obvious should you wish to have a satisfying interaction. It also seems obvious this is an entity who wishes to help you evolve and who is spiritually linked to you, who has told you it can be accessed by your subconcious(why scrying worked so well) and therefore also by deep meditation or sleep. Are you able to do pathworking in dreams? Setting your intent before sleep with prayers and wards may be a powerful (but more dangerous) method for communicating with this entity. The advice it has given so far has been sound. Your shaking indicates you are not equipped to evoke into yourself while scrying and should use a circle and triangle. Then you should command it to tell only truth and ASK- how could it harm you? how could it harm you without intending to? what can you do to offset the risk? how could it benifit you? what does it sense you want?(always check your subconcious desires, they influence)and, importantly, what methods, excersises or skills should YOU learn to fulfill your own wishes and get it to teach you! That is why it came to you in the first place!!

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