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 Psionics Using Direct Auric Manipulation [dam], Something I discovered while learning psionics.
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IMPORTANT: It is possible that my findings (or the methods) that I describe here may have already been used before or already existed long before this document. I take no responsibility for any inappropriateness or any misrepresentation of any kind. Buy reading this you are agreeing to use this document at your own risk.

It's been a while since I've done anything creative, so I've decided to delve into the world of psionics once more. Before I go any further I would like to state here that I am no master at this but I think any new development in this area or contributions to this document would highly be beneficial to all. Well, the title of this document is subject to scrutiny and open criticism. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/Gigakach_02.gif)

Sometime ago I decided to find out if Telekinesis was real and so I started reading all about it. I searched in all possible directions and found quite a handful of tips here and there until I finally stumbled across [http://www.psipog.net] which became my Psionics encyclopedia. Really great website. I learnt quite a lot and became more interested in this "mind-over-matter" stuff. Later on, everything started feeling a little far-fetched until I stumbled across another silly tutorial (I guess I was really dumb back then), which tried to teach the subject in an easy-to-understand manner. And that was like my first discovery into the world of Micro-PK (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Okay, I started out with a 'straw' on a 'bottle' and tried concentrating on the object, trying to make it move. Well, didn't have much success with the fluorescent and/or yellow bulb lit environment, so I devised a new method (i.e. I created a new environment for myself) which involved the use of a candles. You might be wondering how this helped me. Well, I didn't realize how I got the straw to move until my concentration shifted away from the straw and I started seeing myself merge every time with the shadow of the straw created on the table. This, at the time, didn't strike me as odd. I just did what I thought was fun and tried to 'force' the straw to move in the direction I 'willed' it. Later, I couldn't focus on the straw anymore let alone make it move. Instead, every time I would try, it would only do so if I focused on the shadow. Didn't quite understand why until I read a quick guide that explained in detail, how to start seeing auras. You can get it @ [http://learn-telekinesis-training.com] (and more importantly, newbies should please go through the exercises). I didn't actually read the whole thing, because I was eager to start seeing auras (that it became my new craze (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)).

Fine, I had started seeing auras (with little success though) but moving the tiniest object (or Telekinesis) had now become a mystery to me. This had me discouraged and in doubt. My auric sight diminished and I had almost forgotten all about it. Subsequently, I started looking into other directions such the use of mediums and/or angels. So I started downloading materials, some of which I downloaded @ [http://www.sacred-magick.com] and some @ [http://www.satanicsingles.com/library.jsp] or [http://www.satanicsingles.com/library]. However, this only led to more confusion but I kept acquiring more knowledge and started delving more into meditation and OBE (Out-of-Body Experience). Somewhere along the way, I realized how powerful and useful the aura that objects project can be. I went back to my "straw & bottle" experiment and gradually moved away from candles and started visualizing the shadow as the aura projected by the straw and guess what? It worked! I could move just by visualizing the object moving either in or against the direction the aura projected. So, I was in a little bit of doubt and decided to try it on something other than the straw but had no success in doing that; and so, I decided to go back to my "straw & bottle" experiment.

Recently I discovered that the bigger the aura projected by an object, the more likely it is to move a farther distance (giving that it can move or be moved). To further back my point, today I tried an entirely new experiment which can be found below:

Pre-requisite: Auric Vision, (Will Power + Focus == "The Force")
Tools: Ceiling fan (preferably -- but any will do) cut-off from power supply
Environment: Fluorescent lit room devoid of external interference (such as air for example)

Method 1: I concentrated on one of the blades on the fan until I could slightly get its aura projecting by it sides. So I tried concentrating on "The Force" required to move the fan by visualizing its movement opposite the angle I was viewing it from (i.e. like it was going to move in the opposite direction) such that I could feel the force at the back of my head.

Observation: Well, this only made the fan shake a little like it was going to move away from the projection of the aura.

Method 2: I focused until the auric projection was large enough (at least, to the capacity of my "auric vision") and I applied "The Force" just as I did in the first method.

Observation: Finally, this time it moves a farther distance away from the auric projection and stops due to either of the following causes: inconsistent auric projection due to movement of the blades or interference of the analytical mind (aka AOL == Analytical Overlay)

Conclusion: It seems to me that the aura projected from the blade(s) causes a repulsion of the physical material away from itself when "The Force" is applied. On a second note, "The Force" is like two hands trying to pull apart or separate the auric material from the physical material (the blade). Hence, the possible reason for its movement. Finally, maybe the force is just an impurity. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/diablo.gif)

If you've read this far, allow me to say thanks for your time and patience. And please, do no hesitate to try out my method. Your feedback and/or responses would be greatly appreciated. Nevertheless, I want to believe that from what we've learnt today, the aura not only plays a vital role in Reiki or Telekinesis (as demonstrated here) but that it also is applicable in different areas that concerns Psionics as a whole. Let's start and/or keep experimenting with auras to see what real powers lie behind this life force..

Extra Junk: I just tried it again and it works. Glad to know that I'm not crazy. Please try this method and let me know what your observations are. Thanks. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[By Alexander K aka Zenofied]
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post Nov 15 2009, 11:58 PM
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this is a very interesting article,
not only did i read it, i wished it was longer and more detailed (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

TK is something which has stubbornly eluded all of my attempts. I don't consider it a form of practice which is highly applicable to my spiritual path, but I would personally very much like to be able to do it.

I'm going to experiment with your method tonight.

I found your description of AOL to be interesting, that may be my problem, since my analytical mind is more or less permanently stuck at maximum throttle. Of course when I do magick, I do tend to silence it, and work from the mindset of 'Will'. But for something like TK, which I admit as a lover of science, I have difficulty 'rationally' understanding, it is very hard for me to shut down the analytical mindset while attempting it.

to make sure that I clearly understand you, are you saying that the specific detail of your method is to try to drive the object's aura, and the object itself, 'apart' from each other, and the result is that the physical object moves?

thanks for this thread (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) and thanks in advance for any future insight or clarification (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


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nice post! - interesting...

assuming an object at rest can be pushed, once it moves it is no longer where you are pushing but further along the path of the push? - perhaps that is the answer why it stops?

and also, the 'auric interaction' idea is new (to me) and very, very interesting, perhaps being the culprit behind some odd results in something i'm working on - lets say you are looking for a coin laying on the ground, but there are no people ever where you are looking, would you still find a coin? - if you did find a coin, would it be because you were looking for it (i.e., did you cause it to appear?) - one of the weirdnesses of quantum physics that the paranormal radio so blathers on about is the wave/particle thing, where what the observer is looking to observe, that is what the observer observes - is this related?

like i said, this is interesting!


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QUOTE(Kath @ Nov 16 2009, 12:58 AM) *

this is a very interesting article,
not only did i read it, i wished it was longer and more detailed (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

TK is something which has stubbornly eluded all of my attempts. I don't consider it a form of practice which is highly applicable to my spiritual path, but I would personally very much like to be able to do it.

I'm going to experiment with your method tonight.

I found your description of AOL to be interesting, that may be my problem, since my analytical mind is more or less permanently stuck at maximum throttle. Of course when I do magick, I do tend to silence it, and work from the mindset of 'Will'. But for something like TK, which I admit as a lover of science, I have difficulty 'rationally' understanding, it is very hard for me to shut down the analytical mindset while attempting it.

to make sure that I clearly understand you, are you saying that the specific detail of your method is to try to drive the object's aura, and the object itself, 'apart' from each other, and the result is that the physical object moves?

thanks for this thread (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) and thanks in advance for any future insight or clarification (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)


Thanks for your interest in this post. Well, you needn't worry about the article's length just yet. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) It's a work in progress and we're all going to be contributing to it by sharing our observations and/or testimonies. As you may have noticed, I am of a 'practical view' that all things should be put to test and, possibly, undergo some form of refinement before they are assumed to be valid or correct. On that note, I would like to answer your question.

I have created two options from which, I reckon, one or either of the two should suffice to answer your question properly.

Being Logical: This one's for the scientific and/or logical mind (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wallbash.gif)

Yes, the goal is to picture a hand -- not literally a hand -- projecting the movement of the physical object away from its aura. This I feel is achieved when the auric projection of the physical material increases i.e. the increased projection of the material's aura presupposes how far the material can move, which is from a hypothetical point of view. However, you should avoid premeditating what the outcome should be. This is due to fact that the object may or may not have the potency to move. This can quickly cause the analytical mind to set in, thus, minimizing the success rate of the experiment.

Being Crafty: Well, maybe you're like me and just love being crafty. Afterall, the shortest way is the quickest way (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/black eye.gif)

This method involves you visualizing the movement of the material away from its auric projection until it feels as though the movement of the object is happening at the back of your head (i.e. the feeling that the object just moves or pops out the back of your head) while simultaneously maintaining an increasing auric projection of the material, which greatly depends on the capacity of your auric vision. I find this particular approach to be more helpful.

Note: Regardless of whatever approach you've decided to adopt, there's one thing you should have at the back of your mind; and that is concentrating on the "The Force" required to make them move. If a particular object doesn't move, try another -- lighter objects, preferably. There's also an advantage in doing this. Working with random objects helps you to understand the different objects (i.e. ones that can move and ones that can't) and how the environment can encourage or impede their movement. Lastly, "non-living objects" tend to have a white/bright/light aura (just in case you were expecting rainbow colours (IMG:style_emoticons/default/yikes.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif))

I just hope this was helpful. Please send in your comments and observations. Thanks again for your interest in my post. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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QUOTE(esoterica @ Nov 16 2009, 10:02 AM) *

nice post! - interesting...

assuming an object at rest can be pushed, once it moves it is no longer where you are pushing but further along the path of the push? - perhaps that is the answer why it stops?

and also, the 'auric interaction' idea is new (to me) and very, very interesting, perhaps being the culprit behind some odd results in something i'm working on - lets say you are looking for a coin laying on the ground, but there are no people ever where you are looking, would you still find a coin? - if you did find a coin, would it be because you were looking for it (i.e., did you cause it to appear?) - one of the weirdnesses of quantum physics that the paranormal radio so blathers on about is the wave/particle thing, where what the observer is looking to observe, that is what the observer observes - is this related?

like i said, this is interesting!


Yes, I wouldn't agree less that this might be a related phenomena. Take sound for example; when propagated, it alters 'air particles' trying to find its way against the 'force exerted by air'. However, this force tries to hold 'air particles' together in order to give it a rhythmic flow pattern. Meaning if we could just push against that force also, we would be able to distort the rhythm thus gaining a (higher) pitch. Well, this isn't too different when considering the concepts behind psionics as it relates to the manipulation of the auric nature of an object. Although my view may seem a bit one-sided, please refer to my article with a rather practical view of things (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Thanks for your insightful post. Expecting to hear more from you. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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when I try to pry an object and it's aura apart, I end up ripping the aura out of the object without moving the object. suggestions?

also, when you mention something occurring at the back of your head, what do you mean by that?
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your approach seems interestingly similar to the very first approach I was introduced to (in some pretty obscure circles). that approach involved forming an energy ball around the object and it's aura, attaching to this energy ball 2 tendrils (energy conduits), and cycling a very large amount of energy through the ball by running a strong current through the tendrils, then move the whole structure, object & all.

I was not able to get that to work, but would be curious about your thoughts on it?


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QUOTE(Kath @ Nov 19 2009, 12:12 PM) *

when I try to pry an object and it's aura apart, I end up ripping the aura out of the object without moving the object. suggestions?

also, when you mention something occurring at the back of your head, what do you mean by that?
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your approach seems interestingly similar to the very first approach I was introduced to (in some pretty obscure circles). that approach involved forming an energy ball around the object and it's aura, attaching to this energy ball 2 tendrils (energy conduits), and cycling a very large amount of energy through the ball by running a strong current through the tendrils, then move the whole structure, object & all.

I was not able to get that to work, but would be curious about your thoughts on it?


Once again, thanks for your unwavering interest in this topic. And sorry about the late response to your questions. I thought it would be wise to try and see for myself what your experiences really felt like. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/search.gif)

Please correct me if I'm wrong. You're concentrating on ripping the aura off the object but not bothered about the object moving. What I mean is, you're neither manipulating the object nor the aura. You're just focusing on the object to see its aura 'thinking' that it should suffice to move the object -- well, that was not what I meant when I gave my observations. Furthermore, that may be one of the reasons why you haven't had the chance to get my method or the other one (mentioned above) to work. Needless to say, the feeling behind my head is the way I (personally) visualize the force moving the object away from or against its aura. This may not apply to you but might be a good way to shutoff AOL. But not to worry, there's good news for your kind. And indeed, you're a special kind (IMG:style_emoticons/default/victory.gif)

Well, it's imperative that you try all of my methods. However, I have had some influential amount of success using the method I am about to suggest to you. You may have to spend some time practicing this one and I would recommend that you don't give up on it just yet as it can easily yield quicker results. It's one that I personally find easier to use.

Assuming that you can get the aura to project at angle away from its object of reference, try then to visualize (i.e. attempt to manipulate) it gradually turning into either a 'repelling' or an 'attracting' force such that your concentration of the "The Force" is now on the auric energy pushing against its own object of reference and/or attracting it to itself just as you would have magnets behave on either sides of their poles (i.e. as seen when like poles repel and unlike poles attract). Hence, the probability that "The Force" might be an impurity (as stated in my initial post).

Please worry less about how long this might take you. Just be creative and uphold a positive attitude. I guarantee that there's reward for the hard work. Have a magickal day! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wandwizard.gif)

Very Important:
* Always try first to understand the nature of the object you want to 'influence'.
* You'll need to find out if it can be moved or influenced i.e. either by physical or natural forces
* Determine under which conditions the object can (easily) be influenced.
* Always begin with the easy-to-move objects before attempting a much harder level.
* Be excited and believe it moved the first time. It probably just wasn't clear enough. (This can help improve visualization and kill AOL)

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- I'm not really trying to move the aura. just trying to drive a wedge of force between the aura and the object.
my result has consistently been that the aura moves readily, and the object doesn't.

- I have been practicing on an empty paper cup sitting upright on my desk, trying to basically tip it over. I have 'extensively' visualized and concentrated on the ease of the task, in order to try to purge the inner cynic. perhaps not extensively enough.

- in the past, I have observed large scale telekinetic effects which always involved 2 elements in common. 1) that I was myself in an 'extreme' emotional state, like a panic attack. and 2) there was always an 'entity' present. all occurred between early childhood and adolescence. I do not know if *I* unintentionally moved the objects in question, or if the entities did, but it did seem as though the extreme panic-caused emotional energy state was instrumental in the occurrences.

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QUOTE(Kath @ Nov 21 2009, 04:31 AM) *

- I'm not really trying to move the aura. just trying to drive a wedge of force between the aura and the object.
my result has consistently been that the aura mohttp://www.sacred-magick.org/index.php?act=Post&CODE=02&f=63&t=7276&qpid=45177ves readily, and the object doesn't.

- I have been practicing on an empty paper cup sitting upright on my desk, trying to basically tip it over. I have 'extensively' visualized and concentrated on the ease of the task, in order to try to purge the inner cynic. perhaps not extensively enough.

- in the past, I have observed large scale telekinetic effects which always involved 2 elements in common. 1) that I was myself in an 'extreme' emotional state, like a panic attack. and 2) there was always an 'entity' present. all occurred between early childhood and adolescence. I do not know if *I* unintentionally moved the objects in question, or if the entities did, but it did seem as though the extreme panic-caused emotional energy state was instrumental in the occurrences.

thoughts?


Thanks for sharing your observations. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/victory.gif)

Besides the likelihood of an entity influencing an object, I've found that our 'emotions' and/or 'mood' can greatly affect our success in achieving telekinesis. I cannot say to what degree, but it seems that the vibrations generated as a cause of this factor(s) varies from person to person. As for me, the result is far much better when I am happy and/or in a state of extreme calmness.

On this note, I would like to recommend that you start your practice sessions with some Binaurial Beats. There are quite a few others such as Monaural Beats and Isochronic Tones. I find the ones @ [http://www.store.unexplainable.net] to be very useful. You should request a demo. This should help set you in the right mood.

I have to go now. I hope to hear from you soon.

Have a magickal day! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wandwizard.gif)


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Auric malnipulation... talking magnetism surely? Bio magnetics... forcing fields.

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QUOTE(Mchawi @ Dec 9 2009, 01:15 AM) *

Auric malnipulation... talking magnetism surely? Bio magnetics... forcing fields.


(IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Biomagnetic, eh? That's pretty interesting. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) I need to be sure if we're on the same page, or maybe I'm just totally dumb (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wallbash.gif). It'd be nice to learn something new or add to the existing knowledge (as it concerns the topic).

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Never mind me, was just passing through. The aura is an electro magnetic field... you're talking about its malnipulation, basically interacting with an objects field enough to make it move. Studying how to retain ones energy for use in work rather than spilliage during the day would help, basically learning how to master your own magnetic field to then be able to malnipulate and move stuff.

Franz Bardon type practices.

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not everyone thinks the aura is an electromagnetic field (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)


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Point taken, apologies for the intrusion.

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silly! it's not an intrusion. it's more input. more ideas, more persepctive... don't be silenced, please, really. i would sincerely feel bad.

twas just doing my job as mephistopheles' lawyer. the aura isnt an electromagnetic field in my paradigm, but that doesn't make your perspective & input & thoughts unwelcome or un-additive. it's not even my thread. but if it were, i would be glad to have as much diversity of input as possible.


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QUOTE(Mchawi @ Dec 19 2009, 07:20 AM) *

Point taken, apologies for the intrusion.


Just so you know, I didn't start this thread to have you apologize or pity me. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Your contributions are as crucial to the course at hand, just in the same way you are important to your parents. Nevertheless, feel free to express your feelings, doubts, and/or criticism. It was nice having you around.

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QUOTE(Kath @ Dec 19 2009, 04:56 PM) *

silly! it's not an intrusion. it's more input. more ideas, more persepctive... don't be silenced, please, really. i would sincerely feel bad.

twas just doing my job as mephistopheles' lawyer. the aura isnt an electromagnetic field in my paradigm, but that doesn't make your perspective & input & thoughts unwelcome or un-additive. it's not even my thread. but if it were, i would be glad to have as much diversity of input as possible.


Indeed, you seem to have an insatiable appetite for knowledge. I have followed and tracked your contributions in other threads, they seem quite apt and informed. Not like I wish to deviate from my own topic, but I recall a guy from one of the other threads, who had with him, a (possible) list of demons. All this while, he thought they were just spells, each of which, required proper enunciation. I was amazed at how quickly you figured that the release of such (inexplicable) material was likely to be a trick. A way to have people, subconsciously, possess themselves by demons. Your contributions have been tremendously helpful, not just to these threads, but also, to the inquring minds out there. Once again, I'd like to say, thanks for yet another wonderful contribution! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sun.gif)

Perhaps I may have to give you exclusive rights over my thread. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/13.gif) And you are welcome to ask any question within or outside the scope of this thread. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/respect.gif)

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I'm new to the sacred magick forum so i apologize if i sound naive but i'm learnin'!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dumbells.gif)

So yeah, just started on the psionics but had been having a bit of trouble but you've given me a fair bit to think about, especially

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Well, I didn't realize how I got the straw to move until my concentration shifted away from the straw and I started seeing myself merge every time with the shadow of the straw created on the table. This, at the time, didn't strike me as odd. I just did what I thought was fun and tried to 'force' the straw to move in the direction I 'willed' it. Later, I couldn't focus on the straw anymore let alone make it move. Instead, every time I would try, it would only do so if I focused on the shadow. Didn't quite understand why until I read a quick guide that explained in detail, how to start seeing auras


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Somewhere along the way, I realized how powerful and useful the aura that objects project can be. I went back to my "straw & bottle" experiment and gradually moved away from candles and started visualizing the shadow as the aura projected by the straw and guess what? It worked! I could move just by visualizing the object moving either in or against the direction the aura projected.


so far i've been failing miserably at anythin exept auras and pooling energy for psi-balls, everything else just doesn't feel right and no success in finding what works until now.
for some reason it makes sense to me to not actually manipulate the object but to influence the way it moves by changing the shape and applying 'pressure'(?) to it's aura.
Not really like magnetism but more the way water moves things... like a stream!! maybe... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/hmm.gif) HAHAHA now something else for me to think about.

Anyway, off to ponder this a bit more.

plus i hope i didn't misinterpret what you were trying to explain, just knock me about the head a little, if you think i've got a completely different concept in my brain.
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QUOTE(Samich Time? @ Feb 25 2010, 09:54 AM) *


plus i hope i didn't misinterpret what you were trying to explain, just knock me about the head a little, if you think i've got a completely different concept in my brain.



Pardon the late response. And, no, your interpretation's 100% plus you don't get 'knocked about the head' even in the tinniest bit. However, I would like to know about your [other] discoveries and/ or concepts; that is, if you're willing to share them here.

Thanks for your interest in my post.

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QUOTE(Samich Time? @ Feb 25 2010, 09:54 AM) *


plus i hope i didn't misinterpret what you were trying to explain, just knock me about the head a little, if you think i've got a completely different concept in my brain.



Pardon the late response. And, no, your interpretation's 100% plus you don't get 'knocked about the head' even in the tinniest bit. However, I would like to know about your [other] discoveries and/ or concepts; that is, if you're willing to share them here.

Thanks for your interest in my post.

Have a magickal day!


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Concerning the moving of the aura... I have a hunch that it would be almost like.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/Lighten.gif) Astral Projection, and the silver chord!!

The Physical and Auric are bound together. By separating them, one could use the bind between them as a vehicle of force! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/spoton.gif)

But, I am not clear, is it move the aura, and the object will follow, like an object in tow? Or move the aura, and the object moves along, like a push? Or perhaps it's either depending on preference?? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

So it all starts with seeing the aura... alright then! I know where to start! Thanks!


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This is s super interesting and honestly the most useful thread on TK I've ever seen on the internet. I actually started out on Psipog before I moved to other sites, and unfortunately I sort of walked away with nothing that has to do with TK.

My problem with this is that I can feel said 'force' that you're talking about, but the moment I try utilizing said force it doesn't really work. In one instance, it just doesn't move: I feel like a toddler attempting to move a car with in neutral: it doesn't budge, but I know it can move. The second thing that happens is I begin changing the aural stucture, so that its inclined to move, instead of really making the entire physical system shift. That's you know, fairly useful with people, since people aren't exactly 'static', but this is kinda a problem. Er. Dunno. Yeah?

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My problem with this is that I can feel said 'force' that you're talking about, but the moment I try utilizing said force it doesn't really work. In one instance, it just doesn't move: I feel like a toddler attempting to move a car with in neutral: it doesn't budge, but I know it can move. The second thing that happens is I begin changing the aural stucture, so that its inclined to move, instead of really making the entire physical system shift. That's you know, fairly useful with people, since people aren't exactly 'static', but this is kinda a problem. Er. Dunno. Yeah?


First, I would like to apologize for the late response. Well, abode in the flesh for sometime now, I have come to learn about the confusing but yet anxious nature of man -- enough said. You'll be glad to know that I am still human (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bigwink.gif)

Here's a little piece of advice, you probably may have experienced this already. There are times it feels like the object moved, which can result in you doubting or feeling excited about your progress, then you try to move the object again but every new attempt seem to fail. Although some see it as a common case of brain block that require you taking supplements (e.g. Iron e.t.c), I think it's more AOL than you can ever imagine (supplement or not). That is, for every new attempt, you're expecting much more than your mind or body can give and as a result, your focus shifts and/or diminishes. However, one way you'll be able to create the effects you desire is not to spend too much time trying to get an object to move. Let there be a mood as this may require less effort but then you'll need to combine this with consistent practice.

Hopefully, that answered your question. If there's something you're still not clear about, please leave me a message and I'll reply whenever I get the chance. Sorry, I have to go now. Have a magickal day! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wandwizard.gif)


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I remember this thread (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

This method hasn't been productive for me yet (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

But to be honest i've been mostly focused on other things. I've been applying myself as intensely as possible to my path and spiritual goals, as I am anticipating a life altering turnkey event, sooner rather than later, and that holds the lion's share of my focus.

I have thought about my difficulty using your method though. And assuming it is a workable method, I believe my problem lies in two aspects of it :
1) This sensation in the back of the head is all about. It sounds crucial to the method. It's being elusive.
2) a difference in conceptualizing the movement of an object's energy relative to the object. (if you and I were both to close our eyes and visualize something which is only described to us, the visualizations would unavoidably differ. When using such a visualization to bring will to bear on energy, the differences in visualization could possibly cause varying results)

(I've worded the above somewhat carefully to avoid negative self-NLP.)


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QUOTE(Kath @ Jul 6 2010, 05:54 AM) *

I remember this thread (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

This method hasn't been productive for me yet (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

But to be honest i've been mostly focused on other things. I've been applying myself as intensely as possible to my path and spiritual goals, as I am anticipating a life altering turnkey event, sooner rather than later, and that holds the lion's share of my focus.

I have thought about my difficulty using your method though. And assuming it is a workable method, I believe my problem lies in two aspects of it :
1) This sensation in the back of the head is all about. It sounds crucial to the method. It's being elusive.
2) a difference in conceptualizing the movement of an object's energy relative to the object. (if you and I were both to close our eyes and visualize something which is only described to us, the visualizations would unavoidably differ. When using such a visualization to bring will to bear on energy, the differences in visualization could possibly cause varying results)

(I've worded the above somewhat carefully to avoid negative self-NLP.)


Nice to know that you've been trying. However, I have been very busy and haven't had time to practice. Also, I now find it somewhat difficult to reproduce the same effect.

Well, I have had time to open myself to other experiences and, for that, I am pleased! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blablabla.gif)

Have a magical day! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/book.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wandwizard.gif)

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I plan to revisit this technique when I get the chance. Perhaps I might discover something worth sharing.

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