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 Can Anyone Tell Me How To Remove A Negative Thought Form?, It's big and drains my energy
josh4377781
post Nov 12 2009, 11:12 AM
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While reading the book Astral Dynamics, out of fear, when I passed a section that mentioned astral hitchhickers and negative spirits, I accidentallly created a large human shaped thought form. As of now, it's about as tall as me and is trying to possess me so that it can kill myself and my closest family members. Often it moves some of my body parts and attempts to shock my brain and brain stem, which are both protected by god.

So far I've gone to three healers and have tried numurous methods to remove it. All have been unsucessful.

I'm wondering if anyone can point me in the direction of a method or book or person that can teach me how to remove it, or if anyone can post one themselves.

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post Nov 19 2009, 03:14 AM
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just out of curiosity....what did the healers have to say about your 'thought form'? what school of spirituality did each belong to and how did they try to heal you? i just want to know more....not that i really feel comfortable offering you advice...how can any of us know the details, you've provided some minimal information and now expect us to offer you a diagnosis and prescription. um...thats a hands on project....particularly not something any of us feel confident trying to fix over an internet chat. no offense my dear...but i think your high expectations scared people away. don't worry though. im sure if we discuss it a lil' people won't be so shy. another thing im wondering is how long have you been involved in astral studies and are you an active student? perhaps if you elaborated some more, our more experienced members will volunteer the information you seek without fear of being responsible for misleading you or generating more worse problems. one last question: why are you convinced that it started with your internal mental powers instantaneously birthing to this powerful entity with very little provocation (you said a passage in a book)without deliberation or particular intense and lengthy concentration? Are you absolutely sure its a thought form and YOUR thought form? If it was birthed from your imagination, then how do you know it exists on a astral or physically threatening level? Are you positive its not psychosomatic? Give us some concrete example of the problems you and your family are facing and I am SURE your story will incite, at the very least, some long winded sympathy.

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post Nov 19 2009, 08:56 AM
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>>Often it moves some of my body parts and attempts to shock my brain and brain stem, which are both protected by god.

ouch! - guess it depends on the body parts lol - and why does god always attend suffering? - i have enough food for now, thanks anyway


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post Nov 19 2009, 03:18 PM
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QUOTE(valkyrie @ Nov 19 2009, 04:14 AM) *

what did the healers have to say about your 'thought form'? what school of spirituality did each belong to and how did they try to heal you?

Each of the healers asserted that they would be able to dissolve the thought form before they began to exert any effort. I'm unaware of what schools of spirituality the healers went to.

The first healer said that normal self-created thought forms would need to be transformed into positive ones. She then went and asked questions about the thought form and its intentions and then recomended a visualization which contained the thought form, a wheel of light, and the thought form itself inside the wheel.

The second healer merely asked some archangels and power animals to remove it, and the third healer seemed to attempt to remove the thought form with intentions and psychic energy.

QUOTE(valkyrie @ Nov 19 2009, 04:14 AM) *

another thing im wondering is how long have you been involved in astral studies and are you an active student?

I'm wouldn't consider myself an active student, and most of my studies have consisted of rummaging the pages of books to find information that would lead to the removal of negative spirits. I've done that for about a year.

QUOTE(valkyrie @ Nov 19 2009, 04:14 AM) *

one last question: why are you convinced that it started with your internal mental powers instantaneously birthing to this powerful entity with very little provocation (you said a passage in a book)without deliberation or particular intense and lengthy concentration?

I had originally assumed it was a negative spirit, but was told diffrently when I spoke to the first two healers. To add, there was an image in my mind that was engendered by the fear which came into existence. It was what I imagined a astral hitchhicker to look like, and in doing so, visualized a human shaped entitiy with its head over my right shoulder. As I write I can feal the head of the thought form resting. I know I haven't mistaken the head for the head of a real negative spirit because all the countermeasures i've used to remove negative spirits have been entirely uneffective, or have done very little to reduce its presence.

The thought form also responds to my beliefs. If, for example, it starts making it hard for me to breathe or urinate, to cause it to stop, I can hold in my mind a belief that contradicts the actions of the thought form. I have not been able to make it go away by using my beliefs.

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post Nov 19 2009, 07:52 PM
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wow its sounds like you got yourself into a pickle....

another question (just getting to know you convo), what faith do you practice? because if you go to a healer who doesn't share your belief system...its my assumption that the method the healer uses won't help you as much as if someone of your same beliefs were to help. let me give a silly example: if you were christian it wouldn't help you if a shaman gave you some tea and said 'go find your fragment'....for one thing, you wouldn't understand what they were asking you to do and also, you wouldn't feel as confident. So if you are christian, it would probably be more advisable to treat it like its a weak demon that needs to be expelled by the all powerful God. At least you would have the advantage of playing on your home turf.

but also, just to mention this out of healthy concern....even if you are ABSOLUTELY positive this entity is real...go get a medical exam.
two reasons to do this outside of confirming you aren't a crazy (no i don't think that)

1. if you are having these physical difficulties, whether it is caused by or just associated with this dark figure is irrelevant. you want to make sure you don't have injuries or illnesses (chronic and otherwise)....this is for YOUR health, f%*! the thought form it can go to hell. use it to clue into your physical and mental state of health.
2. secondly, underlying illness or predispositions that could be either antagonized by this 'thought form' or ones that you could already have that make you weaker and therefore a victim to this creation of your own mind...or even helped you birth it in the first place...can be rid of or treated and cured if(as) you discover them; and therefore effectively confirm that YOU are the one in power and that it has no real physical affect over you at all. for instance, if you find out you are having trouble breathing or urinating for another reason altogether...you have defeated it by stripping away its power and becoming aware of what the REAL reason behind your pain is. Also, if you find out that you are perfectly healthy with no lasting illness or injury at all...then that too will help you strip away its power-either way, a stronger awareness of YOUR territory will make it weaker.

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post Feb 17 2010, 07:33 PM
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QUOTE(josh4377781 @ Nov 12 2009, 12:12 PM) *

While reading the book Astral Dynamics, out of fear, when I passed a section that mentioned astral hitchhickers and negative spirits, I accidentallly created a large human shaped thought form. As of now, it's about as tall as me and is trying to possess me so that it can kill myself and my closest family members. Often it moves some of my body parts and attempts to shock my brain and brain stem, which are both protected by god.

So far I've gone to three healers and have tried numurous methods to remove it. All have been unsucessful.

I'm wondering if anyone can point me in the direction of a method or book or person that can teach me how to remove it, or if anyone can post one themselves.


Well you know why its not working? because you keep rebuilding it and enforcing it and feeding it. Thing is and im sorry to say so that i dont think you want it gone. Since things we create, unless sustained for a long while(years in fact) or have an alternative source of energy, cannot sustain themselves for very long without it and simply fade away. Since fear is something hard to overcome(and at times a great source of drama in an otherwise not so exciting life, in the eyes of the beholder of course (IMG:style_emoticons/default/13.gif)) it could work against us and prevent us from benefiting from the help we ask from others. Im just guessing, from the situation you described, that even if those "healers" did solve your problems or in some way managed to benefit you you are the one responsible for the rest of your own "care" by not repeating your past mistakes. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

-And this answer applies, of course, only if i am assuming you are not pulling my leg with this post of yours. So just in case i am taking it seriously.

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