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GaiusOctavian
Note: Before posting I saw another topic asking for experiences, but asking them to be sent to that person, and I didn't want to post on the topic not adding anything productive so I made my own topic.

-There's not really much info on them, but if anyone has worked with them, I'd love to read on some of the experiences you have had with them on this topic.

.::Sempre Bene::..::Chris::.
-Fiat Lux.
gmcbroom
I don't know the name of all of the Olympic Spirits just Phul and Bethor. Anyone ever use them? I realize this is an old thread so I figured I'd bring it back to life. Where could I learn more about these Noble spirits?
Frater F.A.M.E.
QUOTE(gmcbroom @ Nov 3 2006, 09:18 PM) *
I don't know the name of all of the Olympic Spirits just Phul and Bethor. Anyone ever use them? I realize this is an old thread so I figured I'd bring it back to life. Where could I learn more about these Noble spirits?


Why don't you summon one and learn from it directly? There isn't much available in print about them. If my memory is correct, there is one lodge that has worked with them and has posted thier work online, and I think there is one book available that uses a few of them, though I can't remember the title.

In anycase, summon one and find out. Och is cool.

-F.F.
tyrian
The Arbatel De magia veterum is where you'd be able to find all the info you need. It's available online/print. Here's a link to the Peterson translation (the best out there so far):
http://www.esotericarchives.com/solomon/arbatel.htm#intro

I've started a seperate thread to discuss the grimoire in more detail.
Frater Amorvir
QUOTE(tyrian @ Nov 6 2006, 10:26 AM) *

The Arbatel De magia veterum is where you'd be able to find all the info you need. It's available online/print. Here's a link to the Peterson translation (the best out there so far):
http://www.esotericarchives.com/solomon/arbatel.htm#intro

I've started a seperate thread to discuss the grimoire in more detail.


Here's a good quick intro into Arbatel made by Phil Legard.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/8085912/An-Approach-to-the-Operation-of-the-Arbatel-of-Magic
MaleWitch
QUOTE(Frater F.A.M.E. @ Nov 4 2006, 06:01 PM) *

Why don't you summon one and learn from it directly? There isn't much available in print about them. If my memory is correct, there is one lodge that has worked with them and has posted thier work online, and I think there is one book available that uses a few of them, though I can't remember the title.

In anycase, summon one and find out. Och is cool.

-F.F.

Have you ever summoned Och? I've heard he's an awesome spirit to work with.
SororZSD23
I spent several months working with the Arbatel alone and also in a group working with 3 other people--all internationally based. My experiences are posted in several entries on my blog (see link in my profile). The Arbatel is supposed to be a much larger book. All we have in the introductory first chapter. People mostly focus on the section about the Olympic Spirits but I now believe that it also has a lot of angelic magic in it too, but it is not spelled out. The seal of secrets is a map of the spiritual cosmos --like a Cube of Space--and, like a yantra, the different geometric shapes correspond with the planetary Intelligences. The seal also refers to the mansions of the moon and we think that areas in the seal also refer to presiding angelic entities, too. I more or less know how the seal is supposed to work, practically speaking. It is kind of a like a calendar where you align the moon mansion with the day and season and the themes of those times and spiritual entities governing those times and ordering you day accordingly.

YOu can contact the Intelligence by simply following the simple guidelines in the Arbatel (no you don't ahve to go through some elaborate GD/Roscicrucian circle casting and evocation.

It seems to be influenced by Orphic, Roman, and early Hermetic mysticism (not Solomonic or Cabalist magick).
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