Hi there I was just wondering if anyone knows any really good Voodoo/witchcraft spells, But something that does not give you love, money, luck, protection.. but something differant...something with a result that is not based on energies or anything..something with a result in the outside world, I dont mind what it is just as long as you can fit it on a index card. I hope you dont mind me asking for spells, I hope it's aloud here, just one spell and i'll be fine. I looked at the 'spell box' in the site and noted some down, also searched on the internet for some..does anyone have any good ones?

Thank you!

Shogun

discern if this is something you should do or not, for it is very strong and affecting

esoterica's primal communion song (in 4 parts)

go outside on each 'quarter note' of the moon - maiden(1st quarter), mother(full), crone(last quarter), dark traveller(new moon)

bring cakes and ale (or whatever), and a small biodegradable gift that relates to the current note, preferably food, and one that won't hurt animals (the children of the night) if they find it, and preferably handmade by you, with the intent of fostering communication, and your wand

feel the energy of the night, lay down somewhere comfortable (i use a mylar blanket), expose your wand, and stare up into the night at the lamp in her hand

the lunar song is a watery and shifted-out-of-phase version of the solar song that it is retransmitting - notice and try to determine the phase shift from the solar song

find the song of the night (might be a note or a series of notes) with the current moon, and sing, howl or growl with it, whatever is right for you, reinforcing the moon-song and helping it happen, in your own special way

share the cakes and ale and give the gift just before you leave, leaving it there

make a mental note of the energy of the lunar note and the song at that point in the cycle

be sure to re-cover your wand, leave nothing behind, and be open to communication thereafter

i keep a small backpack ready to go, repacking it the next day except for the cakes and ale and the gift

Yes! thank you for the reply Esotorica I think that I deffinitly want to try this one, what kind of results have you had when using this spell? it seems alot differant then any of the ones I encountered and really intrigues me alot

hey esoterica!!!

i sing a lot at night. sometimes spirits will come and listen.

but you can do it even during the day...ever tried singing with the trees? its really fun. also, they will tell you things in exchange for company or friendship....mostly concerns the weather for the next couple of days (trust me, they are more reliable then the weather man)...but sometimes other older and deeper stuff too. you know, they love the attention...it happens so rarely for them. they will also dance for you if you actually listen and watch. i love it right before a light rainfall...how they turn up there leaves and draw a breath around them, all in lush green's unison. its quite beautiful and exhilarating.


spells that don't deal with energy, or healing, or money, or love, or luck, or protection......?

that is an extremely ambiguous question. can you clarify?

>>ever tried singing with the trees

neat! - i'll try it the 9th at full moon! - my thing is i do my stuff at night, so it may not work as planned lol - do trees sleep? (yet another koan for meditating on, thanks!)

shogun, you must remember that i and my path are whacked and 'results' is not what i am after but just hanging-out with folks/energies that you can't see - not so much wicca or 'the craft' but 'old witch' (auld hexe) - there are no results

do trees sleep?



you know...i don't think i ever stopped to ask. lol....

i know that they don't have the same kind of consciousness that we do...and while some trees are more vocal and 'aware' then others, there are also some that seem to be in a constant state of 'hibernation' if you will. i don't think they stop to rest like you and i though... er...i guess i'll just have to ask one of them. good question! still, they LOVE it when you talk to them, and take the time to listen. they NEVER get that kind of attention, and its refreshing stimulus for them.

they like a good offering too (something like honey and water or flowers... i dunno for sure... but its really more the acknowledgment that they like) and they'll even assist you with protection spells or nature and weather spells.

you know the chestnut tree? take 3 fallen chestnuts, kiss them or blow on them with your intent in mind and small thank you, and put them in your pocket or string them in your hair, or wrap them in tissue (i use newspaper) with a pretty ribbon and put it on your dresser or next to your mirror, and you have a VERY effective beauty spell. keep it a secret, and almost that very same day...people will find you more attractive. you'll get more attention. to make it EXTRA sexy instead of just charismatic, sprinkle them with cinnamon or wrap them with a cinnamon stick before you tie the ribbon bow. pumpkin spice works ok too but cinnamon really gives it a kick. when you are done, either refresh the spell or return the chestnuts to the ground. better yet, bury them so that they can grow

if you ask politely enough, they will even lend you energy if you are feeling tired or stressed out.

try mentally fusing with the tree...that's a trip! lean next to the trunk, (always with permission!) and become one with the roots and limbs. soon you'll feel what its like to see and breath out of your skin. its a very strange but enervating state of mind. don't forget to say thank you and goodbye when you're gone. it even helps to say 'i'll see you later' with a promise to meet up with your new friend later.

here are a couple suggestions, hope you like -valkyrie

http://www.sacred-magick.org/index.php?act...ype=post&id=878 - sakarra.pdf

sakarra does a gift of eggs to the very old tree, and also communes with the trees (among doing other things)

neat!


in chinese/aisian magic, the liver produces the element of wood, which needs to periodically eliminated from the body by placing the sole of the bare foot on a tree trunk and sending the wood out into the tree - builds the tree up and cleanses the liver

is this a book you cited? who is this sakarra? interesting.....


"in chinese/aisian magic, the liver produces the element of wood, which needs to periodically eliminated from the body by placing the sole of the bare foot on a tree trunk and sending the wood out into the tree - builds the tree up and cleanses the liver"

i don't know about wood in the liver...but they def. will help to heal you. but i am always careful to allow any living thing to heal me. my fear is a transfer of negative energies to whatever entity is helping me. I guess it requires a fair amount of trust in the entities ability. the thing about plants though, they're incredibly durable...and they are good at cleansing themselves...Circulation...they don't generally hold onto stagnant energy like we do. its not in their nature

eggs huh? i'll try that next time. they seem to like pretty ribbons as well but of course water will help you sweet talk any plant you are communing with. ;P

you click the link and get the sakarra pdf story/book - everybody keeps telling me to publish them in real book form, and one of these days, if a good publisher falls into my lap) i will probably do so

the thing about negative energies is that there is always something or someone about that thinks of them as positive - hence the liver and the tree, good for you to expel wood since you don't need it (negative to you), and the tree can always use more wood (positive)

In my magic, pretty girls produce the element of wood.


Sorry. I'll get me coat...

lol, shame on you V! hehe....knock on wood (i should have known)...someone got a ruler for this bad boy??? the nuns couldn't help you, you know that don't you? lol.

thank you esoterica....i will read your stories. one of these days i will have to write one of my own.

LOL!! Here you go: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkJdEFf_Qg4

To OP: what you're asking is a very vague question that covers a lot of ground. What sorts of spells are you looking for? Google them FTW.

No spells will really work well if you are not trained well in magick. (Keep in mind you may get a few flukes here and there as a beginner but ultimately its your training as a magician that will bring you to true success). Spells really are no subsitute for training.

yeah I like to do this alot when I go for bush walks. It is scientifically proven that plants grow better and healthier when they get good vibes from people. So the plant benefits and we benefit. It is proven that plants have an aura like we do and that close contact with them can help to heal your aura. And sometimes they do tell you things. like when some dramatic thing took place and destroyed the area or who has broke their branch off etc. plants are very alive. it surprises me sometimes.