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 Enochian Magick In The Bible?
shamanwizard
post Jun 23 2008, 10:25 PM
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I was reading this book,called MAGICK WITH CANDLES, by LEO VINCI, and there i found the most interstin information.......And he says that the psalms of the bible are actually enochian spells and evocations written by king david and king salomon...for example,psalm 3:59;70 its soposedlly for protection from enemies and rivals, and they say this:Oh jahve, how much have my enemies multiplied!,many have risen againts me,many say there is no life in his god(shelah)........an it keeps going i dont remeber.....could any of you check an tell me if they are trully enochian evocations??????????


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post Jun 24 2008, 04:33 AM
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well first of all, i don t think that a book called Magic with candles deals with real Enochian. ripoooof (IMG:style_emoticons/default/greedy.gif)
The psalms have a long history of magical use,. but not related to Enochian magic. Enochian magic started with Dee and Kelly in the elisabethan era, no sooner, no later than that. Your author is deeply mistaking. I suggest you read the original enochian material and Benjamin Rowe s work. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wandwizard.gif)

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post Jun 24 2008, 10:59 PM
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QUOTE(Asterion @ Jun 24 2008, 06:33 AM) *
well first of all, i don t think that a book called Magic with candles deals with real Enochian. ripoooof (IMG:style_emoticons/default/greedy.gif)
The psalms have a long history of magical use,. but not related to Enochian magic. Enochian magic started with Dee and Kelly in the elisabethan era, no sooner, no later than that. Your author is deeply mistaking. I suggest you read the original enochian material and Benjamin Rowe s work. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wandwizard.gif)

well thanks i did feel this was the right place to ask about this subject, only one more question, acording to Dee, the keys for enochian magick were given to him by an angel,Anael I believe, and he said that the angel told him that the true discoverer of this angel keys was enoch, the ancient hebrew patriarch, pardon my spelling,so wouldnt that mean that in true, enochian magick its a lot more older than what you say, and that even king salomon used it???? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused012.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/help.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/7.gif)


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post Jun 26 2008, 03:24 AM
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QUOTE(shamanwizard @ Jun 24 2008, 11:59 PM) *
well thanks i did feel this was the right place to ask about this subject, only one more question, acording to Dee, the keys for enochian magick were given to him by an angel,Anael I believe, and he said that the angel told him that the true discoverer of this angel keys was enoch, the ancient hebrew patriarch, pardon my spelling,so wouldnt that mean that in true, enochian magick its a lot more older than what you say, and that even king salomon used it???? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused012.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/help.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)



might be, might date from the golden days of Atlantis or Lemurias, might be as old as human kind, but its not in the Bible per se.

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post Jul 23 2008, 12:42 PM
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I have to agree with shamanwizard, Enochian Magick began with Dee and Kelley, period. The primary interest of the Angels was to deliver the Elemental Tablets to the great Elizabethan Mage and his Scryer. If any of the Calls sound like Psalms it is because the Angels "borrowed" the language and style of the Psalms, and not the other way around. It is possible that the Psalms were used in a "magickal" context in their own time, but they have absolutely nothing to do with the system promulgated by Dee and Kelly in the 16th (17th) century.



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QUOTE(Neshamah @ Jul 23 2008, 02:42 PM) *
I have to agree with shamanwizard, Enochian Magick began with Dee and Kelley, period. The primary interest of the Angels was to deliver the Elemental Tablets to the great Elizabethan Mage and his Scryer. If any of the Calls sound like Psalms it is because the Angels "borrowed" the language and style of the Psalms, and not the other way around. It is possible that the Psalms were used in a "magickal" context in their own time, but they have absolutely nothing to do with the system promulgated by Dee and Kelly in the 16th (17th) century.



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thamk you guys, you have brought some light to my mind.........but I still wonder what kind of angelic magick uses the book of psalms????I'm sure there has to be one out there if its not enochian (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused012.gif) ......


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